The closing of the Anime Cel Collectors facebook group

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The closing of the Anime Cel Collectors facebook group

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I deleted the group anime cel collectors on facebook. It had 100 members. I msg'd most of the base save for 27 people as I was deleting them before I deleted myself. Facebook temporarily blocks you for sending new messages and they did that when I had 27 to go including my girlfriend and me..

This is the global post I messaged most of the base with before facebook capped me.

"Thanks for the contributions and posts and sharing your collections. Unfortunately I have decided to close the group Anime Cel Collectors. It has become a stressor for me to handle it, and I'm not in the right place to do so, and relieving myself of it is the best choice here. To continue hosting it doesn't work either, since I am responsible for its creation. So by all means if someone wishes to start another group, they have my permission and encouragement, the name is up for grabs as well. I wish you all well and thanks for the support and good vibes :)"
During December I took a break from administration duties and let my girlfriend handle it, I was having a rough time then.

Anticipation to enjoy things fuels my anxiety and my ability to 'want to get this ironed out' or 'make it right so I can enjoy 'x' thing' is a mess. At current it's my ability of wanting to play the new Zelda. This is a revolving door for me, self sabotage, but that is not a valid excuse. I put my selfishness to enjoy that game first at the expense of all of you. That type of concept was in my thoughts.. It was wrong. It wasn't very respectable to rush to resolve that situation for my own benefit. Truth is, I wanted out of thinking about what had hit the board, it became toxic to me in some ways to see if I had to log in an worry about having to fix things.

I suffer from a anxiety disorder known as OCD that is pretty rough and early morning was a bad morning for me. I have feelings involving copyright, breaking rules and copyright laws and such as well as a myriad of other legitimately rough triggers I've gone through for a long time. Around age 10 it got bad and I'm 33 now and it's there still. I can sometimes skirt around these issues and work with it, but anyone who took a gander at my rules list could probably plainly see the strange specifics involving copyright. This post comes off manipulative in that I even feel using my OCD as a excuse is manipulative speaking. Still, it was my choice to delete it. Despite all of this. I wasn't like 'powerless'.

I had written a message when the group was being finalized for removal stating I'd keep it up till Friday. I knew having deleted myself it'd wipe out all posts from the past and present from all members, and I am sorry for being selfish to my own end and doing that, it didn't last till Friday. That didn't happen. I was fully aware when I did it and I make no excuse. I tried submitting a request to bring the group back from removal, but it may not happen. If it does happen, someone will take it over permanently, and take that responsibility off my shoulders for good, it won't be my girlfriend either, that shouldn't be her responsibility, but shes been a total sweetheart despite it. The hunger for power is a a strange thing, and I should have given up the responsibility last December instead of having my girlfriend handle it.

I am happier not having something I influenced be taken over in ways that may violate my crazy personal rules. I also submitted a chunk of the member list to a member on it that is remaking the group. (Thank you JadeDuo) I'd be happier just being another member so I don't have the feeling of these responsibilities. I still want to walk among you all, just would be better not running it.

Once the nudity issue with posts comes up, I became uncomfortable on how to handle those posts and I am in no place to be in charge of these types of responsibilities. I just want to be a standard member.

I am sorry this happened this way, I conducted myself selfishly for my own ability to enjoy myself in something else at the expense of others..I have moral dilemma's with something I founded and I am aware other people do not care about these things in the way I do, and you shouldn't. You shouldn't be under my burden of issues and it's not fair to you guys. At the same time I shouldn't be under it either because it causes me stresses that suck. So I made a selfish call.
So in closing, I apologize for losing it. I apologize in orchestrating this to what it is. Most importantly of all though, I apologize for deleting the posts and history there by deleting myself and finalizing it.. I knew what that'd do and I did anyways, so my bad... I hope the next group or Anime Cel Collectors part 2 takes off great. Despite my OCD, pin the responsibility on me. I could have risen above and stepped back from it, I also could have stepped back from my Admin position and just surrendered it to someone different. I do feel I was a pretty good admin over all. I chose reason over flagrant abuses and I believe in that and JadeDuo will make a great admin for the new one.

In closing, thanks for the support. You guys made that group what it was.
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Guys, the new group has been created here. I don't run it so I am a regular member now. =)

https://www.facebook.com/groups/348416495554600/
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LOL I was going to post the new group link, but here it is...already here! I tried to message everyone directly that I could find if I missed you it was because I could not find you on FB, not because I skipped you. Also I did not get a full list of members, so I'm missing about 27 member from my initial list!!
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Not a member of the FB group and not interested in being one... so I can't speak to whatever it was that happened there.

Having said that, lots of folks in the cel community act as if this stuff is life and death. It isn't. Good for you for recognizing that a leadership role wasn't making you happy and for stepping down. This is a hobby and it should be FUN. I sometimes wish more cel collectors would remember that. :D
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Thanks for hard work to keep conversations and contact open among serious collectors. There are many difficult social issues involved in anime, which fans (and collectors) find interesting to explore using fantasy. Unfortunately, Rule 34 inevitably intrudes ("If it exists, porn of it exists.") and that creates tension in any fan culture. (I was intrigued to learn that in my generation [insert "Geezer in wheelchair" emoticon] this was already true, there being a fierce debate over whether fanfictions featuring the presumed gay relationship between Captain Kirk and Spock should include only climaxes consummated through mind-meld, or if it was allowed to include intimate contact "with plumbing.")

That leads to fierce online debates, and I found quite a few on Brony websites that had to be locked and quite a few were likewise deleted after I viewed them. So you should feel that what you did, LWR, was well-intentioned, and if it leads to a new group, then it was beneficial, despite some of the stress that you were caught in. In any case, your statement is objectively stated, without looking for places to assign blame, and concludes your involvement on a good note. I was not aware of this group, and while I probably will not be an active member, I'll be happy to join.
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Thanks for the support... The rule set ends up following me because of my feelings crap, and that's not fair to people in general. Sorry I pulled the trigger. It's one of those situations where you do it and know right from that point you're going to issue a apology or have to confront something. In honesty, it is orchestrated. In more positive news the Admin now has the full member roster, they just re add them and do the group on their own terms and I can do anything that may involved my issues with copyright without worry, since I don't run it. It just makes it easier, but it also makes me a hypocrite. I am better off not in charge for my own good. Thanks for your patience with this.
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BTW guys, I had to individually delete everyone before deleting myself. Sorry.. I had help with the deleting of people when my facebook soft banned my message I was sending out.
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