deepquarq wrote:I think I would limit sales to U.S. until he or she is done with their game! This may or may not get e-bays attention
So we should 'punish' all other international bidders just because one person is being an ass?
I'm sorry, but I've been selling on Ebay for quite some time now and the two times I had problems with non paying bidders the buyers came from the States.
People like this just need to be reported to Ebay. You can't expect Ebay to monitor all their auctions.
Yup as a UK buyer I'd have to agree with Wendy I don't see why legit buyers such as myself and others on this board should suffer just because someones had a bad experiance with a particualr buyer from abroad.
I'm afraid every corner of the world has it's fair share of time wasters and morons so you can't expect to escape it by limiting yourself to one country.
I relist the cel last night. I haven't heard from the guy in several days now so I thought he had given up. However when I checked my email today there were 3 messages from him.
The first declared he was promising to pay for the cel tomorrow and that he had a very big bill from eBay that he had to pay first. The second email was stating that his account was all good and that he just made the payment for the cel. The third email was a paypal notification of funds in my account! All three emails were sent to me within a 10 minute time lapse this morning.
I really don't know what to do. I don't trust the guy at all, not communicating with me until I filed the UID, then pressuring me with emails stating I will get payment, changing his story several times about why he hasn't paid, and now I've received his payment but his address is unconfirmed with paypal.
Take down the relisted auction or refund the paypal payment.
2nd if you decide to accept the paypal payment , do not ship the cel until you transfer the funds into your bank account or request a check and the transfer is complete. This will protect you in case the person backs out and attempts to get back the money while the cel is in transit.
3rd Once it's paid for , ship it insured(whether they paid for insurance or not) with tracking so in case they claim they never recieved it and want their money back you can back trak it to see if they did get it as well as proof of shipment. Also you can get your money back in case it does get lost.
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Take down the relisted auction or refund the paypal payment.
2nd if you decide to accept the paypal payment , do not ship the cel until you transfer the funds into your bank account or request a check and the transfer is complete. This will protect you in case the person backs out and attempts to get back the money while the cel is in transit.
3rd Once it's paid for , ship it insured(whether they paid for insurance or not) with tracking so in case they claim they never recieved it and want their money back you can back trak it to see if they did get it as well as proof of shipment. Also you can get your money back in case it does get lost.
Thanks for the advice. Earlier today I chat with an eBay help rep. who pretty much told me what you said to do. I do not like the idea of having to transfer my paypal funds to my bank account to keep them safe since I prefer to keep money in paypal.
So it looks like I'll be sending the cel to this guy after all but will pay extra on shipping, most likely send EMS, so I can have the tracking information. Hopefully things will go smoothly from here on.
The problem with leaving funds in your paypal account is you run the risk of having funds taken from it without your permission if the guy claims you never sent the cel or it arrived damaged. They take your money and leave you to fight with the postal insurance which in the case of a damage claim you would need the person to be willing to co-operate and ship the cel back to you or turn it in to the postal service in which your out the cel. Having transfered the funds to your bank account protects you.
I'm sure many here can attest to that happening as well as attempting to get funds back from a seller who never shipped the cel after payment.
Paypal rules for you but can not collect your owed money if there is nothing in the account so your out the funds.
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Thanks for the info JWR. I never really knew how the situation worked since I've never had a transaction go sour before and money taken away from me. I've always kept funds in my account unless I decided to use them for none internet use and had them transfered to my bank account. So instead of keeping funds in your paypal account is it recommended to make instant purchases/personal transactions online with paypal taking the funds from your bank account instead?
Now I've seen in the past where sometimes a person has two Paypal accounts. One for accepting cash type funds and another for accepting debit/credit cards. Whats the purpose in doing this? Is not going against any rules set by paypal? Just curious.
The two accounts is that you can accept up to $500 per month free of fees if it's not a credit/debit card on a personal account.
The second account is for the card payments.
Now your shipping to france has no paypal protection what so ever.
Paypal doesn't provide protection to france.
If you have an empty paypal account and paypal wants to freeze a thousand dollars because of a chargeback. Well they give you a negative balance... but that's it.
If you have a thousand dollars in paypal and they freeze it because the guy chargebacks... then you're out of $1000... And since there isn't protection for france... You lose the dispute automatically. The EMS tracking number doesn't do anything.
hey flow,
IMHO, i don't see why anyone would leave money in their PP account unless you've signed up for the Money Market account which earns interest. Everytime, I receive a PP payment I always transfer immediately to my bank account which provides more flexiblity for me. PayPal payments using a bank account is the same as a PP balance in my eyes.
as for separate cash and cc PP accounts, typically cash accounts are personal accounts that don't accept CC payments thus avoiding a fee. i use to have only a cash PP account and would try to use that for my eBay auctions. but i decided to start a CC PP account because it allowed potential buyers more convenience since most of them pay with a CC.
anyways, i'm not as up on PP as i used to be, so if things have changed i'm sure i'll be corrected.
he or she see what you were saying about a few items they lost out on $2100.
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RoboFlonne that's horrible what happened to the guy. I'm confused about getting proof that items were sent to buyers in France? This whole business is making me nervous.
I know I've been complaining alot about this matter and appreciate everyones patience with me, comments, and opinions. Now I have another concern on my mind.
I emailed the buyer days ago to let him know I would be shipping the cel within a few days time. I wanted to wait until the payment was safe in my bank account. Today I logged into my eBay account and noticed he was no longer a registerd user so apparently eBay finally closed his account.
My question is, should I still sell the cel to him or just refund the money? Now that he is no longer registered I don't want anything negative to come back at me.
Sugarflower wrote:I know I've been complaining alot about this matter and appreciate everyones patience with me, comments, and opinions. Now I have another concern on my mind.
I emailed the buyer days ago to let him know I would be shipping the cel within a few days time. I wanted to wait until the payment was safe in my bank account. Today I logged into my eBay account and noticed he was no longer a registerd user so apparently eBay finally closed his account.
My question is, should I still sell the cel to him or just refund the money? Now that he is no longer registered I don't want anything negative to come back at me.
So long as the person paid the money and you were able to verify the transfer it into your account without any problems then you should hold up your end of the contract and ship the cel.
"Like the wind crying endlessly through the universe, Time carries away the names and the deeds of conquerors and commoners alike. And all that we are, all that remains, is in the memories of those who cared we came this way for a brief moment." Harlan Ellison
