I apologize in advance if this is in the wrong section.
Controversial items for an update; add or no?
Controversial items for an update; add or no?
Ok, I was prepping some items for a site update and one particular item got me thinking. It really has the potential to cause me some major grief.. meaning it might be misunderstood and offend people. (and possibly get me banned if enough complaints were to arise) So my question is.. would you put it up anyway or keep it off? Sorry for being vague.. but I would like people's input on this.
I apologize in advance if this is in the wrong section.
I apologize in advance if this is in the wrong section.
Is it really that important to you that everyone see this controversial cel? Did you buy it for your own enjoyment or the enjoyment of others? If I was worried about others being offended by one of mine, I wouldn't post it but I'd just hang it somewhere where I could enjoy it.
I know some people really enjoy controversy, so unless you're one of those people who just enjoys causing a ruckus, I think you should just keep it to yourself, Dustie.
(Just my nickel's worth!)
I know some people really enjoy controversy, so unless you're one of those people who just enjoys causing a ruckus, I think you should just keep it to yourself, Dustie.
(Just my nickel's worth!)-
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I can't imagine what sort of grief an item could cause you.
If it's controversial because of the show, like a really disgusting rape scene from a hentai show or something, I'd just name the category something with a big warning like 'Hentai Cels Warning: Nudity, Violence.' That leaves it up to the gallery visitor if they want to see it or not, and the easily offended could just avoid it.
If it's controversial because of how you acquired it, that's a bit different. I never heard of a controversial cel in this sense until this week, so I can only imagine what that could mean, but I don't see how it could get you banned from anywhere. I mean unless this is a cel that was stolen from someone's house or something, it's nobody's business what methods you use to buy your cels.
That's my opinion anyway. Oh, and I voted yes, if no other reason than that you have really sparked my curiosity and I am now dying to see said cel!
If it's controversial because of the show, like a really disgusting rape scene from a hentai show or something, I'd just name the category something with a big warning like 'Hentai Cels Warning: Nudity, Violence.' That leaves it up to the gallery visitor if they want to see it or not, and the easily offended could just avoid it.
If it's controversial because of how you acquired it, that's a bit different. I never heard of a controversial cel in this sense until this week, so I can only imagine what that could mean, but I don't see how it could get you banned from anywhere. I mean unless this is a cel that was stolen from someone's house or something, it's nobody's business what methods you use to buy your cels.
That's my opinion anyway. Oh, and I voted yes, if no other reason than that you have really sparked my curiosity and I am now dying to see said cel!
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A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. ~Herm Albright
well..
Thank you for your opinions, thus far.
As a general rule, no I don't like to push the envelope. I bought them for me. However, I do like to promote a series I think is worth seeing and enjoy. (don't we all?!) That might not get seen by others as much as say something that's been shown on the Cartoon Network.
Let me explain a little more. The item in question is part of a set. (settei, data) There are some other pieces with nudity which I am putting little censor symbols on. That isn't a problem. The particular piece has a character that wears an eyepatch with a sauvastika on it. For those who don't know what that is, it basically looks like a swastika symbol; only the legs go counter clockwise.
I could see a lot of potential problems with putting it up. I dont mind explaining the difference to people.. but some people once they see might not go to me, they might complain elsewhere. Being the stubborn person I can be, I wouldn't be so willing to take it off. Just for the principle of it. Thus the potential for getting banned. 
Now you can see the dilema, that I was talking about. Please continue to voice your opinions. I have enjoyed the different points of view.
As a general rule, no I don't like to push the envelope. I bought them for me. However, I do like to promote a series I think is worth seeing and enjoy. (don't we all?!) That might not get seen by others as much as say something that's been shown on the Cartoon Network.
Let me explain a little more. The item in question is part of a set. (settei, data) There are some other pieces with nudity which I am putting little censor symbols on. That isn't a problem. The particular piece has a character that wears an eyepatch with a sauvastika on it. For those who don't know what that is, it basically looks like a swastika symbol; only the legs go counter clockwise.
I could see a lot of potential problems with putting it up. I dont mind explaining the difference to people.. but some people once they see might not go to me, they might complain elsewhere. Being the stubborn person I can be, I wouldn't be so willing to take it off. Just for the principle of it. Thus the potential for getting banned. Now you can see the dilema, that I was talking about. Please continue to voice your opinions. I have enjoyed the different points of view.
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Ah, I know this series, and I wouldn't sweat it! I've seen lots of stuff from this show displayed and I've never heard of anyone getting a complaint, even from stuff with the symbol on it.
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really?
Really? Hmm.. I haven't seen much art for this series put up. Are we talking about the same one?! 
We probably are though.
We probably are though.
At least tell us what anime it is from?
To answer your question, since you have a rubberslug account, just mention the meaning of the sauvastika (counterclockwise swastika) which in Japanese Buddhism symbolizes night and is associated with magical properties. That this symbol is 1000's of years old and around 1910 was later perverted by Hitler.
People who know this symbol will not say anything. Ignorant people will. If people give you crap, then tell them to PM or email me. I really do not like ignorant people who spout a lot of garbage when it comes to this subject.
Kujaku
To answer your question, since you have a rubberslug account, just mention the meaning of the sauvastika (counterclockwise swastika) which in Japanese Buddhism symbolizes night and is associated with magical properties. That this symbol is 1000's of years old and around 1910 was later perverted by Hitler.
People who know this symbol will not say anything. Ignorant people will. If people give you crap, then tell them to PM or email me. I really do not like ignorant people who spout a lot of garbage when it comes to this subject.
Kujaku
For heaven's sake, Dustie, now that you've explained a little better, I dont get the same feeling at all. If it is a symbol "that isn't a swastika but might be confused for a swastika", I don't think you should worry about posting it. I uderstand that some people have good reason for hating a swastika, but that isn't even what yours is. So I think you may get some questions about it, but if you don't mind answering the same question over and over about what the symbol really is, I don't see why you shouldn't show it.
My husband is a WWII collector, and I tried to sell one of his SS daggers on ebay last year. I very carefully edited out all the swastika images on the dagger, but I had the word swastika (or Nazi, can't remember which now) in my description and my auction was pulled within 10 minutes. So even though it is a historical fact discussed in a very non-glorifying way, it is still too touchy of a subject to be mentioned/viewed by some.
My husband is a WWII collector, and I tried to sell one of his SS daggers on ebay last year. I very carefully edited out all the swastika images on the dagger, but I had the word swastika (or Nazi, can't remember which now) in my description and my auction was pulled within 10 minutes. So even though it is a historical fact discussed in a very non-glorifying way, it is still too touchy of a subject to be mentioned/viewed by some.
The series is called Tenjou Tenge. It's a high school/ martial arts series. It was later in the series, that this character was wearing it. Thank you for the suggestion Kujaku, I was leaning towards doing that, but it's nice to hear someone else say it.At least tell us what anime it is from?
To answer your question, since you have a rubberslug account, just mention the meaning of the sauvastika (counterclockwise swastika) which in Japanese Buddhism symbolizes night and is associated with magical properties. That this symbol is 1000's of years old and around 1910 was later perverted by Hitler.
People who know this symbol will not say anything. Ignorant people will. If people give you crap, then tell them to PM or email me. I really do not like ignorant people who spout a lot of garbage when it comes to this subject.
Kujaku
I don't know if the image will show up or not but, here's a try.
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Sorry..For heaven's sake, Dustie, now that you've explained a little better, I dont get the same feeling at all. If it is a symbol "that isn't a swastika but might be confused for a swastika", I don't think you should worry about posting it. I uderstand that some people have good reason for hating a swastika, but that isn't even what yours is. So I think you may get some questions about it, but if you don't mind answering the same question over and over about what the symbol really is, I don't see why you shouldn't show it.
My husband is a WWII collector, and I tried to sell one of his SS daggers on ebay last year. I very carefully edited out all the swastika images on the dagger, but I had the word swastika (or Nazi, can't remember which now) in my description and my auction was pulled within 10 minutes. So even though it is a historical fact discussed in a very non-glorifying way, it is still too touchy of a subject to be mentioned/viewed by some.
I am a little too conservative sometimes. 
But I felt it was better to ask here first before I posted it. Oh, no Im not that in your face with things. (unless I get ticked off!I don't really see any problem with it. I looked at the picture and it's does really JUMP out at you. I mean it's not like you plan to use the symbol for you banner or anything like that is it?
)thanks everyone,
Dustie
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Re: well..
It's a norse pagan symbol, representative of stars and heaven. (I haven't seen it used in Buddahism, but then, haven't studied Buddist symbols eitherDustie wrote:Thank you for your opinions, thus far.
As a general rule, no I don't like to push the envelope. I bought them for me. However, I do like to promote a series I think is worth seeing and enjoy. (don't we all?!) That might not get seen by others as much as say something that's been shown on the Cartoon Network.
Let me explain a little more. The item in question is part of a set. (settei, data) There are some other pieces with nudity which I am putting little censor symbols on. That isn't a problem. The particular piece has a character that wears an eyepatch with a sauvastika on it. For those who don't know what that is, it basically looks like a swastika symbol; only the legs go counter clockwise.
Now you can see the dilema, that I was talking about. Please continue to voice your opinions. I have enjoyed the different points of view.
. I know that, but doubt many other people will. I agree with Baakay. I'd maybe put something in the text to explain.-
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Aw hell, Dustie!!! Put it up!!! Don't let a fear of stupid people keep you from fully enjoying something (and letting us enjoy it too! 
). It's not really BLATANT and as long as you explain what it is I think it's fine.
Jeez, it's not like having a picture of something that might be confused with a swastika means you like nazis or are promoting their aims. Especially if the character is wearing it for non-nazi reasons!
Go on! Put it up! We'll back you if it causes any weirdness!
). It's not really BLATANT and as long as you explain what it is I think it's fine.Jeez, it's not like having a picture of something that might be confused with a swastika means you like nazis or are promoting their aims. Especially if the character is wearing it for non-nazi reasons!
Go on! Put it up! We'll back you if it causes any weirdness!
