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Polyester... and cels

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 1:39 pm
by kizu
Well I like naked cels in an art portfolio but I've always hated the paper inserts. I finally found a portfolio that does not use paper inserts but use archival polyester. It's a little thinner than your black paper insert and almost feels like a high quality glossy art paper... But it's not. I've actually tried to tear at it just to be sure it's NOT paper. Although quite stretch resistant, it did not tear and stretched instead almost like a regular plastic. I know they make polyester paper and polyester film, if I have to choose this might be a very thin polyester film.... I was wondering if anyone's ever used polyester inserts before and what was your experience? Will it hurt my cels?

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 1:58 pm
by Moop
I'm sorry, I have absolutely no idea. :sweatdrop (But I do know that paint can stick to polyester, so I probably wouldn't risk putting the paint side against it, in any case.)

I'm really curious as to why you prefer naked cels in your portfolios, though. Have you seen some positive effects from storing them that way? I've always worried that there would be too much free movement, and it would eventually cause a lot of microscopic scratches.

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:14 pm
by Cordelia
Is polyester Mylar? Because Mylar actually sticks to acetate after some time and can lift off paint. It's perfect for paper though.

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 12:40 am
by kizu
Hmmm there is what they call Mylar Polyester Film... Argh. LOL. I don't know! :(

Moop to answer your question; I just like naked cels in my portfolio. I always feel like those cel bags get in the way plus I'm tempted to put copy backgrounds which just bulks up the portfolio and introduces acidic paper (not that it truly matters because the cel is in the bag). But for some odd reason, a minimalist approach is appealing to me at the moment. The portfolios themselves are sealed though in case you were curious. Also they won't move because I put non-background cels lengthwise on the shorter side of the portfolio.

I really don't like celbags. :( Maybe it's the brand of cel bags I have that makes me want to toss them all. I had one thick but it was too cloudy, i had those heiko bags although they were clear they were too thin and puckered up too quickly and badly... Then I had those bags were the adhesive was on the body and not the flap, it was great for a while until i realized the cel moved around that bag.Then I had those zip lock bags, they were great with backboards and stuff but not great in a portfolio. The only real cel bags I liked were the japanese ones that was not resealable (which is why I didn't use them). Hehehe... There's just not winning I guess. X|

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 8:39 am
by Moop
kizu wrote:I just like naked cels in my portfolio.
LOL! Can't really argue that!

I'm addicted to the Japanese bags that are thick, crystal clear and don't have adhesive, a flap, or any other sort of seal. /hmm I'm not sure why you don't like them. The lack of a seal is actually probably better for the cel, as it helps to minimize any potential buildup of harmful gas. But as long as you've found a way to store that doesn't lead to scratching or paint sticking, then you're happy, your cels are happy, and it's all good. :^^:

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:52 am
by glorff
Mine are naked too. Either in cel books for the larger ones or ICON mats for the bulk of them. They look better , can breath, but still can't move. Put them in archival boxes and the presentation is complete, attractive and convenient. :D