Scene curiosity

[Gonzai]

This has happened to me on one other occassion, from the same episode of the same series.
I have a genga set from episode 1 of Hikaru No Go. I know right where the scene is, due to
the cut number and one of the layers from the set. The wierd part is, the main layer does
not match the scene. It is almost like they were going to do the scene one way, and changed
their minds and did it another.

What is really wierd, is I have the layout, which says episode 1, cut 85. It shows the entire
image, which matches my layers, but the image for that scene is not the same - albiet both
the set and the scene are pans, and onelayer matches the scene, but the other layer does not.

Any thoughts?? Has this ever happened to anyone else here??

[Drac of the Sharp Smiles]

I have a Twelve Kingdoms set that is like this, also a pan like yours. Both the pages I have are similar, but one page matches the scene as seen in the show and the other, though similar, has the characters turned/positioned differently. This is the white genga page (different) and the yellow correction (image as seen in the show). Not sure how different your sheets are from the scene.... mine is close enough you can tell it IS the scene, just one page is positioned right and the other, wrong.

[sensei]

I'd say Drac's situation is fairly common: the layout is just a point of departure for the animators, often just an enlarged version of the storyboard image. (In some cases, the layout was a blown-up photocopy of the storyboard image.) So then the episode's animation director looks at it and decides where the characters really are going to stand and what their poses will look like. And that sketch is usually called the "rough" or sometimes the "layout correction." Then, after the genga gets done, the AD has another crack at it, and so this yellow correction (shuusei) sheet should resemble the douga and final production image.

But Gonzai's situation does suggest that the original version of the scene was, at some point, rejected and done over from the genga stage forward. I do know of a couple of situations in which this happened: the most notorious is in Cardcaptor Sakura where Sakura, confronting the Dark Card, suddenly finds herself transfigured, with Light coming from inside her. Lots of cels from that scene have come onto the market, and some show different poses, different shadow lines, different colors. From what I can tell, it was animated -- all the way to the cel stage -- at least twice, and there may also be test cels that were the result of an even earlier trial run. I finally obtained a genga showing one of these moments and, as I expected, the color/shadow lines fit a set of cels that did not match the final production footage.

So I'd say Gonzai's guess is probably right: someone, probably the episode director of this Hikaru no Go ep., didn't like the look of this scene and asked the animation team to do it over. I do have some fat packets of Sasami: Magical Girls Club sketches that show all kinds of revisions along the way: changed poses and perspectives, characters that disappear along the way, etc. Some even have two duplicate sets of dougas, one evidently a rejected version.

[Gonzai]

Sensei is exactly right. The pan sketch is nothing like the original scene, however, the other layer
is identical to the scene. Its like they wanted to do one thing, and then said nah, lets do it this way
instead.

At first I thought it might have been genga from 2 seperate scenes put into the same same envelope,
but the layout suggests otherwise. I will try and get it scanned and show it up with an inage of the
actual scene.