Beta Awards 08 - Guidelines & Submissions

[miz ducky]

Yep, injured is good with dead/dying.

[Cloud]

Next question? Are they exactly the same?

[pixie_princess]

Well Cloud, Dying means you ain't dead yet... So they aren't the same.

[Cloud]

Great. Maybe some of them are.

[zerospace]

An interesting question has been posed to me, so I'm posting it here for input. With repro cels being allowed -- if two users have the same repro cel, and both try to enter their cel but in different categories, are both allowed or not?

I didn't think the answer was 100% clear, so I'm posting the question. On the face, I'd say both would be allowed, but it would present an interesting dilemma for voters--seeing the same cel in two different categories.

[Killua]

This is the relevant policy for the last Beta Awards:

Rilezu submissions are first come, first served. Subsequent entries of the same or similar rilezu from more than one entrant will be denied and a different entry will be requested. The same is true for sequence mates of production cels and sketches.

This would seem to apply to Repro cels as well.

[moonrabitt]

I get why sequence mates would not be allowed since they are so similar....

But then what if one sequence mate is SAD, and the other is happy, or it has a significant difference??
-just asking....

[syan]

Per the guidelines on the first page (bolded for emphasis):

4) Unless there is an obvious difference, sequence mates in the same catagory are not permitted. Whoever submits the artwork first will be allowed to use that artwork in that particular catagory. If you manage to submit a sequence mate to an item that is already in that catagory, you will receive an e-mail and permission to enter another item in lieu of the repeated piece. This applies to all types of artwork.

If it's majorly different, like in your example, it should be okay.

[cutiebunny]

This is the relevant policy for the last Beta Awards:

Rilezu submissions are first come, first served. Subsequent entries of the same or similar rilezu from more than one entrant will be denied and a different entry will be requested. The same is true for sequence mates of production cels and sketches.

This would seem to apply to Repro cels as well.

Correct. In addition, if a Repro or Rilezu is submitted in one catagory, it can not be submitted into another as it's akin to submitting the same piece of artwork for two catagories. So, if two participants each submit the same Repro cel but for two different catagories, whichever participant submits the artwork first will be allowed the use it as their submission.

I'm sure the next question might be, "If two participants submit almost identical sequence mates to two different catagories, will that be allowed?"

In that event, if two similiar looking sequence mates are submitted to two different catagories, that's fine. Because the artwork is not the same nor is it directly competing against its sequence mate, any adversity should be overcome.

Per the guidelines on the first page (bolded for emphasis):

4) Unless there is an obvious difference, sequence mates in the same catagory are not permitted. Whoever submits the artwork first will be allowed to use that artwork in that particular catagory. If you manage to submit a sequence mate to an item that is already in that catagory, you will receive an e-mail and permission to enter another item in lieu of the repeated piece. This applies to all types of artwork.

If it's majorly different, like in your example, it should be okay.

Right. If the handsome bishounen on A1 is facing right and smiling, but on A40End, he's close and personal with tears in his eyes, that's fine.

[toonybabe]

I think I am going to participate this year too! What about having the max pixel width be 530 since a lot of us already have images of our cels at that size from our Rubberslug galleries.

And I have a question about the female catagory. Does the character have to be a human female? Or can it be some other type of species female?

[zerospace]

Eeep! How on earth did I miss that? Must be all this programming going to my brain . Sorry, sorry!

[majinuub]

I'm not sure if this was answered in my last post, but are participants allowed to vote for their own entries?

[zerospace]

I'm not sure if this was answered in my last post, but are participants allowed to vote for their own entries?

It's never been disallowed in the past, I don't see why we should start now, but wait for cutiebunny before taking anything I say as truth.

I would like to pose the next unanswered question for final decisions. How do we want the voting process to work? The reason I ask is because I am to the point where I'm beginning to code that page, and I would like to be able to build in the point system if folks want that over single votes. Either one is do-able for me, its just that the latter will be a tidbit more work.

If people do want the points system: I would recommend for the sake of not only my own sanity, but also to make it somewhat simplified, that we allow you to choose 3 from each category and assign them a set point value each (say... 5, 3, and 1), rather than allowing point values to be arbitrarily chosen.

Any thoughts? Suggestions? Cutiebunny--did you have anything in mind yet?

[cutiebunny]

As every participant has always had the ability to vote for their own artwork in the past, I see no reason to change that now. Everything is subjective. If you honestly believe that your artwork is the best in the catagory, I don't see why you shouldn't be able to vote for it.

And that way, everyone gets at least one vote, right

As for voting, last year every vote was worth one point. The problem with that was that, in some cases, there were multiple winners.

Honestly, I don't mind if we have a tie - if anything, it allows more awards to be handed out. I'd prefer to adopt last year's system, if possible.

[Cloud]

I assume you mean our current problem.