Question about Relizu's douga's Vampire Knight / Amatsuki

[RoboFlonne]

Question about Relizu's douga's

Instead of going through Anime Cellar... I've always bought directly from Office Fao.

The Relizu's generally are $20-$50 less if you buy them from Office Fao, from my experience

I've asked Office Fao and they told me the Douga I get is genuine.

But because Office Fao's english isn't the best, I have never been certain if it's a real douga for production of the anime or just for the relizu.

Until I read the YELLOW SENTENCE on AnimeCellar's site.



So does this mean the Douga is a genuine Douga used to produce the anime? or is Anime Cellar wrong?

I really want to know before I spend another $1000-$2000 on relizu's!

[Kaona]

This topic was discussed before on A-B a few months ago. Most of the rilezu being produced are being done with a composite douga. A new douga is created specifically from existing ones in order to come up with the best possible facial features and pose. Then the rilezu is produced using this composite.

You can tell if you have a composite right away - there are a few numbers listed on the top of your sketch like A1, B-3, C-3. Or, try matching up your existing rilezu precisely with a screen cap.

In all fairness to Anime Cellar, this guy has been around for a long time, he has always been honest, fair and very reliable. He has never intentionally misled anybody as far as I know, and since he doesn't actually paint the cels himself I understand why he might think they are original douga. They look just like ones used in production.

The layouts and sketches from these anime are so tightly controlled by the studios it is doubtful the ones used to produce a particular rilezu will ever enter the market, and if they do then buy them.

I don't believe having an original production douga versus and original composite douga affects the value of the rilezu. It is simply supply, demand and popularity of an anime that drives the rilezu market, not the original sketch.

[RoboFlonne]

You can tell if you have a composite right away - there are a few numbers listed on the top of your sketch like A1, B-3, C-3. Or, try matching up your existing rilezu precisely with a screen cap.

So AnimeCellar was wrong...



I'm still confused, though... So if the sketch matches the screen cap exactly then it's probably original and not composite?

If it says A-1, B-3, C-3 then it's original and not composite?

If it has all three, A-1, B-3, C-3 then it's composite?

[Cloud]

Interesting deduction. I hadn't thought of that.

[Kaona]

RoboFlonne please read my post again, slowly and carefully this time before posting banter. This has nothing to do with letters and numbers. That was an EXAMPLE of a composite douga. It can have 2 or 10 letters and numbers, it doesn't matter.

No, I didn't say Anime Cellar was wrong. In the past the original douga was used. If it is a simple, perfect pose then they probably do use the original douga and include it with the rilezu purchased. However, if there is a better combo from that cut, say a nicer mouth position then they will use a combination to create a composite douga and that is the douga you will receive. That is the one that won't be production douga, although it will be unique to only the rilezu.

If the RILEZU you received matches the screencap perfectly, then they probably used the original douga and included it with your cel. Phew, lecture over.

[RoboFlonne]

RoboFlonne please read my post again, slowly and carefully this time before posting banter. This has nothing to do with letters and numbers. That was an EXAMPLE of a composite douga. It can have 2 or 10 letters and numbers, it doesn't matter.

I'm sorry! I really just didn't understand... It confused me!

So, i'm going to vote that Anime Cellar is right!