Your take so far on WBs Egypt Arc?

Goldknight · Post by **Goldknight** » Sat Nov 19, 2005 4:05 pm

Just curious since it's airing for the first time in English what y'all think? I don't think it's too bad thus far. But them I'm easy to please once I hear that voice for Atemu. droooooooooool. Dang I love that voice actor.

KT · Post by KT » Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:05 am

I haven't been watching the dub Yugioh (except GX) so I don't know how it is. But I do have a question about it; Has Kisara showed up yet? And if so, what have they changed/edited about her?

duotrouble · Post by **duotrouble** » Sun Nov 20, 2005 1:53 am

Yup! Kisara has shown her face. But I'm with GK, as long as Dan Green is talking, I'm good.

kisara · Post by **kisara** » Sun Nov 20, 2005 2:23 am

WTF???????????????????????????

I REALLY should pay more attention. Last I read on here, no-one was showing it so I quit looking. O_O grrrrrrrrrrrrr

How many eps thus far?

Kitt · Post by **Kitt** » Sun Nov 20, 2005 10:27 am

About four? Mahaad just completed his sacrifice.

I only had a chance to watch through the subtitled Egypt arc once (I loaned the dvds to a friend so she could enjoy it too). Since Mahaad is my favorite character, I wasn't much thrilled with how that played out in the English version.

I guess the idea of Mahaad releasing the full extent of his power for that fight wasn't changed that much, but I really hate how they had to ramp down his sacrifice.

In the Japanese, he willingly stepped into the path of a massive, swinging blade and died, to release his ba (more or less his soul) to join with his ka (more or less his personal power -- which up to that point had been fighting for him as his monster the Illusionist Magician) and become the Dark Magician. He did this as a way to gain the power he needed (so he thought) to destroy Diabound, bury Bakura in the tomb, and, since he had already set up the stone tablet outside the tomb, release himself, as the ka-monster Dark Magician, to serve his pharaoh evermore.

In the English they just had him send the full extent of his power to the Illusionist Magician and thus bond with it. *eyeroll* It really loses its impact that way. I know they could hardly show his death on American tv but still... They have the guards with the stone tablet on top of the cliff say that they would know the fight was over when Diabound appeared on it. Uhm, no. Mahaad, from the beginning, had that set up as his last-ditch escape route.

I really missed the music scoring in the scene with the confrontation between Mahaad and Bakura.

As for the rest of it -- at first the Pharaoh sounded like an idiot, repeating every line another character said. "I'm witnessing the birth of Duel Monsters!" It's a wonder the priests didn't turn and wonder what the heck was wrong with him! Fortunately, that was only the first episode of the arc. I, too, love Dan Green's voice. Just, wow.

The only characterization I really can't stand (so far) is Mana's. She's coming across as a selfish, bratty, ditzy, typical cartoon air-head, and she's really not that way at all. She has one stupid scene coming up, but otherwise, her maturity is actually rather important to the story.

On the plus side, (gets ready to duck rocks from Bakura lovers) I really loathed Bakura's Japanese voice. I swear, Bakura has twice as much "dialog" (mostly insane laughter) as any other character throughout the Egyptian arc, and that maniacal laugh of his grates on my nerves something fierce! English Bakura's voice is a heck of a lot easier to listen to.

kisara · Post by **kisara** » Sun Nov 20, 2005 10:50 am

Hehe. So I'm not too far behind.

Not that I didn't watched the subbed version likke 50 times, but hey. . . one can never, ever, ever have enough Kaiba and two versions of him at once? *faints*

It is a shame that they edited the ep you're referring to Kitt. It was a fabulous and moving episode and really set the tone for the whole season. A tone entirely different from the rest of the series. 'Tis why I loved it.

Goldknight · Post by **Goldknight** » Sun Nov 20, 2005 8:57 pm

I agree with Mana. She reminds me of Pan from GT. VERY annoying in the dub, but pretty cool in the original.

I thought in the original they told the pharoah that the carcophagus (sp?) was his dad, but in the dub there was no mention of it. Seems like they toned a lot of stuff down which I knew they'd have to.

Just a bummer.

duotrouble · Post by **duotrouble** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:44 pm

Thanks for posting that, Kitt!

I haven't seen the Japanese version. (I only recently got into fansubs. Too late for YGO.)

I thought it was still great seeing how the Dark Magician came to be. And GK,

I heard them say it was his father.

Goldknight · Post by **Goldknight** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 10:43 pm

I totally missed that scene then DT! Probably paying too much attention to the voice.

I agree about Bakura. His English voice is so much better than his nails on a chalkboard japanese voice. I will say I miss Joey's VA from the originals. Talk about

I'll admit that the English VA fits more to his "from the streets" persona, but dang I could melt from the original voice. Reminds me a romance novel or something.

Kitt · Post by **Kitt** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 8:47 am

*Grrr!*

In today's episode, Isis' explanation stripped Mahaad's sacrifice of any sort of concept that he did it out of loyalty and love for the pharaoh, taking the bittersweet, yet ultimately triumphant nature right out of it.

In the Japanese version, all the priests, I think, knew what Mahaad had done, but were horrified by it and not so blasé. I had really liked the part where Isis explained that Mahaad's soul was hurt and needed to rest and heal before he could be summoned from the stone. And Mana crying because she missed her mentor, teacher and friend made so much more sense than the selfish display they turned it into in the dubbed version. *sniffle*

So, in the dubbed version, Mana was carrying on so because she hadn't finished her studies to become a great magic user? Could they make her any brattier?

I'm still not sure if they are trying to paint Aknadin as a total good guy or not. Oddly enough, it is Seto who is staying closest to the way he was in the Japanese version -- snarky, loyal, but conflicted.

Ah well. Dan Green's voice, Dan Green's voice...

Baakay · Post by **Baakay** » Sat Nov 26, 2005 9:35 am

Rats. I haven't ever seen this part in either language, but I'm enjoying the snot out of the manga as it appears in Shonen Jump.

I'm disappointed to hear that once again American TV feels the need to water down the story arcs. WHY the heck can't they show people dying?? People DO die! Do they think kids don't hear the news about car bombings every other day?? Harumph, tsk, snort, and other disgusted noises.

What I'm really interested in, though, is whether anyone could point me in the direction of a subtitled version of this part of the story. I'd really love to see it.

duotrouble · Post by **duotrouble** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 2:32 am

Kitt wrote:Ah well. Dan Green's voice, Dan Green's voice...

Hear! Hear!

Baakay wrote:. . . anyone could point me in the direction of a subtitled version of this part of the story. I'd really love to see it.

I would love to see it too.

Goldknight · Post by **Goldknight** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 10:38 am

I have the subtitled original subs on DVD. Just bought them off ebay. Is that what y'all are talking about? At the time Getterdome was doing the sales, but they got shut down.