Anime you simply can't stand...

kizu · Post by **kizu** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 11:29 am

Wish I could name names here but I can't. I have a very bad habit of only giving a few eps to an anime. If it doesn't catch my interest then it's gone and forgotten. It does have it's disadvantages though *cough* like I missed out on my fave series because the TV version seemed awful, but the OVA completely changed my mind and after speeding through the first part of the TV the rest was history.

wELCOME cONSUMER · Post by **wELCOME cONSUMER** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:50 pm

It would probably be easier to name anime I actually like. There's so many series I dislike, hate or can't stand. I don't give much of anything a chance because I don't have time to waste on crap and my crap filter is pretty high. If it doesn't catch me within the first episode, then it's over. I can tell immediately if something is going to hold my interest or not. I also don't believe an anime can start off bad but get better. A solid, well made work of art should be good from the get-go. Anything less is going to have flaws. Hardly anything interests me or has caught my attention in recent years as well.

I'm terrible with names, so I cannot recall everything I hate but...

Gundam - other than G Gundam, I'm not a big fan of this franchise. It's boring to me.
Excel Saga - loud, annoying, pointless
Chrono Crusade - stupid. Chrono Crusade, along with Trinity Blood and several others, fall into a category of anime which really annoys me: those that misuse Christian and historical references which result in having no substantial baring on the plot. Something like Constantine is clever and well done, but you don't see that kind of stellar example in anime. Typically, names and references are just thrown in needlessly and do not enhance the story. The references never echo their historical counterparts, so I'm left focusing entirely on what the meaning of the reference might be, when there's actually no meaning at all. I absolutely HATE that. Coupled with this is the overuse of one word (noun or pronoun) names for super secret special organizations, like Holy (from Scryed), Vesper (from Mahoromatic), Funeral (from Argento Soma) and countless others. Now, this does not mean I hate these respective series, I simply hate this trite practice of nomenclature.

Anything with tons of episodes. I hate series that go on forever. Even something like Ranma or Sailormoon, which I do like, is annoyingly long and drags out. Anything more than 2 seasons is on my ignore list (except G Gundam, which was also too long at 4 seasons). Therefore, I don't like...

Dragonball, Inuyasha, One Piece, Bleach, Naruto and so on.

I did watch Dragonball a long time ago. As for the rest of these shows, I won't give them the time of day because they're too long. I'm a fan of concision, not fillers.

Keropi, I loved Brigadoon and Alexander!

Baylor · Post by **Baylor** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:06 pm

At the risk of taking a lot of flak for this, I'm wondering why to even discuss such a negative topic. Listing what anime you can't stand seems to invite hurt feelings and further negativity. We don't all have to like the same things, as that's what makes individuality so great, but why go so far as to call certain shows that other people may like as boring, pointless, or annoying?

There is something to that old saying of "if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all."

RoboFlonne · Post by **RoboFlonne** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:08 pm

agreed! I love all anime!

even if it is really really stinky , it's a whole lot better then what I can draw!

birdie · Post by **birdie** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:18 pm

I was thinking the same thing! I don't see the purpose of this thread, how does it enhance the community?

I understand the need to express opinons, and we all have series that we
detest, but for every one you hate someone else loves it and why put down another's taste? Stupid is not constructive criticism,it's your opinion and you are entitled to it. But a thread like this just invites hard feelings.

wELCOME cONSUMER · Post by **wELCOME cONSUMER** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:40 pm

I could say the same things about this new "rank" that's cropped up: Elitist. That term might bother some people, but it doesn't seem to stop some people from using it in a taunting sort of way and adopting it as their rank. Including people who are not mods and have not posted 2,000 posts. I thought custom ranks were only allowed to posters who've made 2k posts. That rank is somehow supposed to bring us together as a community?

I'm not insulting people who like series I don't like. In fact, I don't expect or want people to like what I like, it makes collecting easier.

I don't understand why people identify dislike of a "thing" with dislike of a "person." It's not the same. Not liking the same anime you like doesn't mean I hate you. And I feel compelled to say what I want about a particular series, especially Excel Saga because I really did try to like that series. I bought 4 or 5 of the DVDs and eventually realized it was a waste of time. It never went anywhere and wasn't my type of humor. And I do find Gundam kinda boring sometimes, it doesn't engage my interest enough. I know it's popular and has a big following, but it didn't manage to hook me.

I don't see why this thread would get someone up-in-arms. It's not exactly a serious discussion, I thought we were supposed to share our opinions.

I shouldn't have to justify my feelings because sometimes I cannot fully articulate why exactly a series rubbed me the wrong way. If someone's going to get pissed at me for not liking what they like, so be it. That's pretty petty, but fine.

Cloud · Post by **Cloud** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:40 pm

What would be the same?

RoboFlonne · Post by **RoboFlonne** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:50 pm

I don't see why this thread would get someone up-in-arms.-WC-

Hi! Sugarcels! We love the way you post and you should post more often! It's just that this thread can and will hurt feelings. For example there is bound to be a person who loves bobobobobobo and that person is crying right now! /wah

Anime's I love!

Rozen Maiden
Evangelion
Disgaea
Fate/Stay Night
Demonbane
Read or Die
etc....

wELCOME cONSUMER · Post by **wELCOME cONSUMER** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:58 pm

I'd say the majority of my gallery, if not all of it, is dedicated to series people hate. Do I care? Should I care? You know how many people like Giant Robo?

I've had at least one person tell me the animation looks like crap. No paraphrasing there, by the way.

If someone was truly offended by my statements, I sincerely apologize. I was not attempting to insult any individual. There's things I don't like and sometimes there's no rhyme or reason why. I'm also not a huge fan of Henry James. I think he's a real windbag and his prose leaves a lot to be desired. Do I hate the Henry James literary circles and fan groups? No. I just so happen to not like him, despite critical praise.

Baylor · Post by **Baylor** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:58 pm

I never thought that you were insulting people because they like a series you don't. I also don't associate disagreement with disliking people. If that were true, I'd never have any friends.

And who is up in arms over this? I was only divulging my opinion, like you and others, saying that I don't see the point in discussing such a negative topic.

RoboFlonne · Post by **RoboFlonne** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:05 pm

I'd say the majority of my gallery, if not all of it, is dedicated to series people hate. Do I care? Should I care? You know how many people like Giant Robo?-

You're special WC.

Most people haven't reached your level of maturity and understanding!

I myself invite critism of any anime I like!

If anyone hates an anime I like, feel free to tell me why and I would love to debate it with you!

It gives me an understanding of why not everyone likes the anime I love. And that would be something I wouldn't gain otherwise.

You have to remember Toni! That not everyone is as wise and resilient as you...

Most comments phase other people!

Cloud · Post by **Cloud** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:05 pm

Tell me what you care about.

duotrouble · Post by **duotrouble** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:38 pm

I, like so many others, have plenty of animes I can name that I don't like. I find this sort of thread interesting as long as everyone takes it in stride. But knowing human nature, there's always going to be someone who will take offense or take it too far.

I'm a HUGE Gundam fan. I didn't take any offense when WC said she thought the Gundam series was boring because she used the key words for me

wELCOME cONSUMER wrote:It's boring to me.

I'm okay with that. 12 Kingdoms was boring to me but I have a lot of friends who like it. I've never once criticized it.

However, I do take some offense with the reasons behind why WC, sorry to mention you again, didn't like Trinity Blood or Chrono Crusade. That's a touchier subject IMHO because it deals with religion.

Pretty interesting thread until the recent turn. How about we keep it light again and continue to have some fun?

Cloud · Post by **Cloud** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:39 pm

Interesting. I did not know that.

wELCOME cONSUMER · Post by **wELCOME cONSUMER** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 6:08 pm

It's kind of a given that anything someone says that's not grounded in fact is there opinion and is prefaced by an invisible "in my opinion." Sometimes I don't bother to type that out each time because it gets repetitive. I wouldn't want anyone to be seriously disturbed by my opinion. I talk to blueheaven about movies all the time and we don't agree on lots of stuff (mostly because he has bad taste in movies!

just kidding) My comments were not artfully worded because I thought this was supposed to be a flippant conversation.

Here's a rather amusing website: http://www.ybfree.com/21SUCKS1.html. You can read his take on Giant Robo, in fact.

Can you expand on what you mean about the religious topics? My problem with those series, as well as something like The Matrix trilogy, was the over use of Christian and historical references that did not adhere to the significance behind such symbols. For example, if someone is named Mary Magdalene (this is hypothetical) then the character should have some sort of connection to the actual historical figure of the same name. There's a hefty literary as well as religious significance behind such a name but I find some animes, movies, whatever, blatantly ignore this. I'm not sure if I articulated this clear enough the first time, but that's the nutshell of my beef. I fixate so much on what the symbols represent and what it could mean in the series, but I end up discovering the symbolism was not the intention of the creators. It turns out arbitrary and has no influence on the plot, which I find odd. They just thought it "sounded cool" or something. A character could easily have been named Harry or Gerard instead of Judas because nothing about the religious/historical Judas was integrated into the character. Good art should be purposive, so if a significant name is employed, it should have some baring on the plot. Otherwise, why bother even calling him Judas in the first place?

Needless to say, that's just my take on things. These points were incorporated into the "I do not like Evangelion" thread (or whatever it was called) as well as the Strawberry Eggs thread.