The Anime Beta Awards 2006 [begins November 11th]

blueheaven · Post by **blueheaven** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 8:42 am

OK, hero and villains categories are in. I will also condense a few categories to make a "Best Facial Expression" category to include things like shock, joy, laughter, etc.

As for Non-Anime, as much as I sympathize with your OCD, James

, I think this one needs to stay. There are collectors on this board(myself included) who have some really nice comic art, American cels, paintings, etc. It was a good category to have last year.

Edit: OK, just finished. We now have a nice and even TWENTY categories. I removed the Rage and Joy awards and made a "Best Facial Expression" category. Also added Most Heroic and Most Villainous categories.

The runner-up award will stay as well.

wELCOME cONSUMER · Post by **wELCOME cONSUMER** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 9:30 am

I think that compromise is best Brian. I agree that best facial expression
is better and with 25 entries per category, it should produce some
interesting results when it comes time to vote.

Like Krafty, I think the second place award should stay. Looking at last
year's winners, it's cool to see how different the two top winners were at times.

Like last year, can non-Japanese cels be entered into any category? If so,
perhaps the 20th category should simply be non-cel? Focusing more so
on the original art, comic panels, shikishi, etc. As pointed out by someone
(Chris maybe?), I entered American cels in other categories last year, as it
was within the guidelines but that seemed to produce some confusion.

blueheaven · Post by **blueheaven** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 9:34 am

wELCOME cONSUMER wrote:
Like last year, can non-Japanese cels be entered into any category? If so,
perhaps the 20th category should simply be non-cel? Focusing more so
on the original art, comic panels, shikishi, etc. As pointed out by someone
(Chris maybe?), I entered American cels in other categories last year, as it
was within the guidelines but that seemed to produce some confusion.

I had changed the rules this year to correct that problem. This year, Non-Japanese cels are NOT allowed in any category except the Non-Anime category.

And yes, the Runner-Up award will remain.

Krafty · Post by **Krafty** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 9:53 am

Cool, 20 categories is perfect. My knee can stop juddering now

I'm sure I'd have a submission for Best Facial, although it may be better suited for the Hentai section j/k

As for the Non-Anime section, that's absolutely fine. I too have some 'other' artwork that may fit here, just won a couple of decent drawings in the Mandarake BWA so if I pay for them in time, one could be an entry into that category.

wELCOME cONSUMER · Post by **wELCOME cONSUMER** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:07 am

blueheaven wrote:
wELCOME cONSUMER wrote:
Like last year, can non-Japanese cels be entered into any category? If so,
perhaps the 20th category should simply be non-cel? Focusing more so
on the original art, comic panels, shikishi, etc. As pointed out by someone
(Chris maybe?), I entered American cels in other categories last year, as it
was within the guidelines but that seemed to produce some confusion.
I had changed the rules this year to correct that problem. This year, Non-Japanese cels are NOT allowed in any category except the Non-Anime category.

And yes, the Runner-Up award will remain.

Ohhh, ok! Thanks Brian ^_^

Sugarflower · Post by **Sugarflower** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:17 am

I'm super late at replying to this post.

Been having some prolems logging
into Anime-Beta due to my web browser. Anywho, I'm glad this is coming
together and the awards will be taking place again this year. Are you still
looking for help with the awards?

blueheaven · Post by **blueheaven** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:31 am

Absolutely! If anyone would like to take a stab at creating a new Beta Award, I'd love to see them. I like the idea of coming up with a new design every year. We did one honoring Sith-Krillin last year, so this year I would like to see an award honoring Magician's hard work. He's been key to keeping this boat afloat, so I would like to see magic incorporated into the awards.

buttrflym · Post by **buttrflym** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 1:31 pm

Are you guys going to start a different post with rules and categories? I am starting to get confused. Probably cause I am blonde.

Thanks.

GuyvarIII · Post by **GuyvarIII** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 2:25 pm

buttrflym wrote:Are you guys going to start a different post with rules and categories? I am starting to get confused. Probably cause I am blonde. Thanks.

You can check blueheaven's about section to see the current rules and categories.
http://tenyearsafter.rubberslug.com/gallery/about.asp

urabob · Post by **urabob** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 5:48 pm

blueheaven wrote:
wELCOME cONSUMER wrote:
Like last year, can non-Japanese cels be entered into any category? If so,
perhaps the 20th category should simply be non-cel? Focusing more so
on the original art, comic panels, shikishi, etc. As pointed out by someone
(Chris maybe?), I entered American cels in other categories last year, as it
was within the guidelines but that seemed to produce some confusion.
I had changed the rules this year to correct that problem. This year, Non-Japanese cels are NOT allowed in any category except the Non-Anime category.

And yes, the Runner-Up award will remain.

So those of us who collect and prefer American cels are only allowed to submit art for one category?

It says that submissions to any category can be "Production/Rilezu cels or sketches but the emphasis is on cels." Sketches can be entered into any category, plus they receive a separate category of their own. So why can't American cels be entered into any category as well?

Anime is a word which means "animation" and you said the emphasis is on cels. Why are American cels excluded from this definition?

majinuub · Post by **majinuub** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:32 pm

urabob wrote:
blueheaven wrote: I had changed the rules this year to correct that problem. This year, Non-Japanese cels are NOT allowed in any category except the Non-Anime category.

And yes, the Runner-Up award will remain.
So those of us who collect and prefer American cels are only allowed to submit art for one category?

It says that submissions to any category can be "Production/Rilezu cels or sketches but the emphasis is on cels." Sketches can be entered into any category, plus they receive a separate category of their own. So why can't American cels be entered into any category as well?

Anime is a word which means "animation" and you said the emphasis is on cels. Why are American cels excluded from this definition?

I was wondering that as well. I am glad that the Runner-Up award is going to stay.

majinuub · Post by **majinuub** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:46 pm

This was probably already answered but can cels stuck to paper/sketches be submitted?

blueheaven · Post by **blueheaven** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 7:53 pm

To address the American animation question: The name of this forum is ANIME Beta. Since Anime is a Japanese term, I feel the focus should be primarily on Japanese production art. Yes, Anime is Japanese for animation, but it is a genre in and of itself. Plus, we allowed American cels in last year, and they did not fair well at all. With the collectors on this board, it is most likely that an American cel will not get chosen anyway.

As for stuck sketches: You may submit a cel that is stuck. There is no rule against it. But you cannot submit the sketch in another category.

Post by **JWR** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 8:15 pm

Well Considering Brian (Blueheaven) has volunteered his time and energy to set up and run the Beta Awards this year I feel he should have the right to set things as he see's best.

There is no formula that will please everyone. I recall that some chose not to participate last year over Rilezu's only being in the Best Hanken , post production , fan cel category and no where else. So please don't spoil things by bickering.

The Beta awards are supposed to be a fun enterprise and those who wish to submit cels or just view and vote are welcome to do so.

wELCOME cONSUMER · Post by **wELCOME cONSUMER** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 8:27 pm

Thanks for the input Joe, but no one's "bickering." Asking for some clarification
is not that big of a deal. I was simply confused, last year no one
submitted American cels to the other categories because it was not
clear that we could. The non-anime category was part of the reason
for this confusion.

blueheaven wrote:To address the American animation question: The name of this forum is ANIME Beta. Since Anime is a Japanese term, I feel the focus should be primarily on Japanese production art. Yes, Anime is Japanese for animation, but it is a genre in and of itself. Plus, we allowed American cels in last year, and they did not fair well at all. With the collectors on this board, it is most likely that an American cel will not get chosen anyway.

I understand what you mean Brian. But them not doing well is not really
a valid reason to exclude American cels. Does that mean productions that
were farmed out to Korea are also excluded? Such as Reign: The Conqueror.

Again, this is -not- an argument, it's a discussion. Of course Brian's
word is final here, I'm not denying that. I honestly don't see the harm
in talking about it, but if someone views my post as some sort of threat,
then please, over look it. Brian knows how I feel about him and I doubt
he views my simple comments as some sort of dissent against the ABA
or an insult to him as the person running this year.