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kira · Post by **kira** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:15 am

ok, i was bidding on an auction this morning that i lost terribly on. though i am a bit crushed that i didnt win, i'm happy that i have money still in my pocket. yeah, i know i'm weird.

any way, i was wondering when you play bid war with another rinkya bidder isn the starting amount suppose to go up?

i got this auction quite high and after it endedd i went to refresh the page but the it was still at the starting price.

uh, what gives?

pixie_princess · Post by **pixie_princess** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:09 am

Nope. The winning bidder on Rinkya (in this case) has to pay a certain amount in addition to the winning bid for the benefit of winning so low. Check out the fees section

irmgaard · Post by **irmgaard** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:10 am

As long as only Rinkya bidders are involved, the price on YJ will not change. Thatâ€™s because Rinkya is the one actually buying the item/cel. You, and the other Rinkya bidder(s), are really bidding for the right to purchase the item/cel from Rinkya.

Thatâ€™s why Rinkya only charges you $4 for every 1,000yen over the final price that your last â€œopponentâ€

cutiebunny · Post by **cutiebunny** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:13 am

Additionally, depending on the item, the winner may also not be able to benefit from the special incentives that Rinkya has (ie. Discount for buying cels).

irmgaard · Post by **irmgaard** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:48 am

Oh yes, Cutiebunny is so right to point out that rather pricey point!

And Rinkya is upping their bid on YJ every time you and the other bidder bid, so, if another YJ bidder joins in....

kira · Post by **kira** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 2:51 pm

well that explains why it never went up. i knew you'd have to pay eztra for going against another rinkya bidder. i just didnt think it'd stay at the starting price.

thankfully no, it was only me and another rinkya bidder. i had a feeling it'd be worse if sonene else was involved.

Keropi · Post by **Keropi** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 5:21 pm

Does the Rinkya winner pay less than the second highest Rinkya bidder's high bid in situations such as that?

irmgaard · Post by **irmgaard** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:48 am

Keropi wrote:Does the Rinkya winner pay less than the second highest Rinkya bidder's high bid in situations such as that?

Yes, that is possible.

It all depends on how high above the shown highest bid on YJ you, and the other bidder(s), are bidding.

Iâ€™ve had it happen a couple of times with high-end Inu or RK cels. When three or more Rinkya bidders want the cel enough to go far above what other bidders would want to bid for it. But usually everyone thinks about its value at around the same price, so, if the bid shown winning is low, another YJ bidder (or a bidder from a different deputy) will join in the auction. When this happens, you will see the winning bid price suddenly jump up from a bargain, to a more expected price level.

But, if only you and the other same deputy bidders are interestedâ€¦ and you fight it out to your own chosen maximum bidsâ€¦ the winner can wind up paying less than the highest bid price of the loserâ€¦

And, of course, the seller gets far less than either the winner, or the unsuccessful bidders, would have been willing to pay.

Goldknight · Post by **Goldknight** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:29 pm

There are a lot of Kenshin auctions up lately and I think one particular seller is smokin something because the prices are nuts!

irmgaard · Post by **irmgaard** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:13 am

Goldknight wrote:There are a lot of Kenshin auctions up lately and I think one particular seller is smokin something because the prices are nuts!

Amen, Sistah!!!