I usually don't even bother with a start bid early but rather, simply enter a snipe with full bid at the end, that way early on no one knows whos really bidding on the auction. And I think many bidders on YJA does this. I don't quite see the point of registering my bid early on to tell others that I'm bidding on the auction.Animechaos wrote:Personally when I bid on something I put in a absolute minimum bid that puts me as the high bidder. Then using our system put in a snipe bid for my true maximum. That way you have a secure bid, others think you're just bidding low if they do bid early, then BAM big bid near the end for the true amount you want.
I think I got partial shilled. I'm pretty sure this "pol" person is a genuine bidder by looking at his past feedback and bidding against him in the past. I was in fact bidding on another auction against him at same time: http://page4.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d146431583 at the time my set is at 70K+yen where the bidding pace seemed normal. After 76K, it went up by 2K at a time, I think that's when he decided that he should let me eat my full bid because he couldn't out bid me. I decided to let the other set go early hoping that he would stop bidding on this one. But, I guess I got shilled at the end. I would have had no problem if the ending price was around 70k-80k yen, as that's what the nearby sequence of this went for last time without me bidding. But, I'm ok with paying that extra too as long as I won, since that is my max bid.Quacker wrote:Wow! Sorry dude! Seriously if it looks like a rat, smells like a rat......well you get the picture.
Looking at the Bid history, you definitely got 'shilled'. It would have been an amazing 'coincidence' for "pol" to suddenly stop bidding right on your Max.Bid.
That actually brings up a true suspect of shill bidding. If you look at the auction I just posted, under the proxy I used, theres another bidder that goes by "hug". This bidder come out of no where, and with one single bid, he maxed me out. If there's doubt on that, check out these as well: http://page7.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/g130088717, http://page16.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/u53133216, http://page7.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/g124507646. One single bid each time in the last few minutes of auction to max me out, how weird is that?? What's even more strange, this "hug" person only bid on the auctions I bid on and not any other from the same series. that's actually why I decided to switch to a different proxy on the set I won, and sure enough, the "hug" person didn't show up. But why not? if "hug" is a true fan of the show, he should've at least attempted to out bid me as that's a defining set of sketch for the character and the price was low at one point. And if this "hug" is not a 'fan' of the show, I don't think he'd try to bid 33500yen with one single bid now would he? But again, if he is a fan, when bidding just once, sees my max bid(again, easily done with the minimum increment thing) another 200-600yen he could've out bid me, but why doesn't he try to? So long story short, I think this "hug" bidder is much more suspicious and might not have in fact be a genuine bidder.