Too shy/afraid to make offers?

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I hate making offers. So I do: First I really let the person know I really love the person's cel. That is all. Then, if she or he replies, then I would try to communicate with them. If I feel like confortable enough then I would just mention I would be really interested in if there is any chance the person would be apart with the cel I love.

I do hate making offers. But I usually loooooooooooooove meeting people who have the same tast :) :) So I usually keep sending feedbacks via RS to meet people. If I could offer them and if they take my offer that is great. If not this is great too :) :) (Usually I have rarely succeeded making offers anyway :P :P Except to Baakay ;) )

But I am a begger :P :P usually any chance if I could win an auction I would do anything :P :P )not anything but you know what I mean ;) :P)

I hope your cel offering goes well :) :)
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birdie wrote:The only thing that makes me just a little peeved is making an offer that is not followed through on. We agree on a price and I don't hear from the person ever again...or I hear from them and it's less than stellar news. If you are offering, be prepared to follow through.
I totally agree with you there. I've had this is the past and it can get really irritating, especially if you see those people buying cels and such from others or winning auctions. :evil: Needless to say, I will not deal with those people again in the future. This really is the only time I get anal with someone. :P

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I hate them with a passion for all the reasons that have been mentioned so
far. It would take something extremely nice to get me to deal with the hassle.
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Like everyone else here, I hate making offers. Especially, as Klet mentioned,
when the seller says something like "I paid a lot for my cels so don't waste
my time with low-ball offers." Um, yeah. Huge turn off. I don't know what
other collectors consider a lot or a little. I've gotten some extremely rare cels
for low prices (just lucky I guess, I don't know). But the value of the cel
shouldn't entirely be based on what YOU paid for it at the time. Things change.
Markets and interests evolve. Something that was $600 a few years ago may
not be worth much now (just look at VHD Bloodlust cels. From some sources,
you can get them dirt cheap).

Off the top of my head, I can recall two offers I made on cels I now own.
I overshot on both. One was MUST have, the other was not so much.

I also actively bother people who have cels I want :P I can't help it. You
never know when someone might consider parting with said item. I prefer
a bit of back and forth with the communication when striking a deal. Let
the seller set their ideal price and I'll let them know what I'm capable of
doing. Be it a lower price or a more liberal payment plan, etc. I've acquired
several cels via these methods.

I do get extremely ticked off by people who get all pissy about "low offers"
or emails asking about their cels. If those emails really irritate you,
then don't display your cels online. And please don't assume everyone has
your standard of value. I have no clue what you paid for your cels. For
all I know, you might be some bid-happy nut who hates money. :rollin

If someone emails you about your cel, consider it a compliment. I still
can't figure out why such emails incite violent and venom laden reactions
from the owners. Can someone please explain this to me?

Perhaps, if the emails bother you, just put up some hideously bitchy
warning on your gallery to scare folks away from making unrequested offers.
I've considered it a compliment every time someone has taken the time to
contact me about my cels. Like Sugarflower, I reply to everyone with the
kind of respect I'd appreciate receiving. Being polite isn't difficult and takes
just a few seconds of your time to simply say: "Thank you, but no."
Unanswered emails (if they are blatantly ignored by the receiver) are
rude and in poor taste.

I think all of these reasons are probably why people are uneasy about
making offers or even expressing interest in other collectors' cels.
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Post by Caroline »

i usually dont make offers, but when i do, i try to offer the most i'd ever consider paying... but i don't understand why a person would get "bitter" about receiving any offers. i am always flattered to meet someone who likes my cels. maybe it is just me? but i would never be bitter or offended by anyone's offer, however low (or high... :wink: )
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Post by hyelakingsfan »

I really dont like making offers too.

...and i hate when i make an offer for something and the person either doesnt reply or replies by just saying NO...simple as that. It makes me feel so :x
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Yeah, the cels I spy with my little eye, that I would want to make offers on are usually high end stuff, and I know I don't have the cash to make the offer, so I sit and sigh. :shrug

When approached with offers, I do try to be straightforward and considerate. I know what an emotional roller coaster ride it can be.
I am, however, not the most tactful person around either. :wink:
If I'm not looking to sell, I'll tell you such. I won't get mean, but I won't sugar coat it either.
If I'm willing to let said item go, I'll work with you. :^^:
I'm rarely in a hurry. Living on a tiny island in the middle of the Pacific for six years will do that to you. :wink: Mail comes twice a week if we're lucky, so hurry on one end won't do diddly on mine. :P

But yeah, hate making offers. Don't mind getting offers. But keep in mind, if it's an Ichigo or Ranma, chances are pretty slim I'll let them go at all.
Plus, you wouldn't want them what with all the drool marks on them and such. :wink:
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i dont mind making offers. i just know if i offered to little to either try again with a better offer. if they've politely said no to respect them and ogle from a far.

i havent been approached with offers.*knocks on wood*
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I don't take offers on cels, and I politely explain why on the main page of the gallery. I have still recieved offers, and I always answer politely explainlng that nothing is for sale, though I have traded a few cels. Not all of the people offering have been polite with their offers. One actually wrote a shopping list of all my best TnN cels and said they would be purchasing them "if the price was right." :? I didn't know I was selling them!

I don't usually make offers. Some have gone well, some were not so good.
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If someone is rude when making an unrequested offer, then all bets are off.
I wouldn't blame the gallery owner for ignoring the email (which would probably
be best) or replying with a resounding NOOOOOOOOO. :P hehe
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*looks at vapalla's post**blinks*

you mean someone actually did that?
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I think it depends on whether I'm familar with the collector before hand. If I am, I have no problem with making an offer whether it's turned down or not. Otherwise I'm a little shy about it, mostly because while I don't want to offend, I don't want to pay twice what it's worth either (unless it's something I really REALLY want). So I think I prefer a price to be given.

I do try not to make offers unless the collector is asking....but on occasion...I can't help myself :emb
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Offers don't bother me. I make offers all the time on cels I want. Sometimes I get a yes and sometimes I get a no. It's no big deal. I just make sure it's a well worded email, read several times before sending. I also try to be nice and make sure I put my standard "I don't want to offend" line in. All my responses have been just as pleasant. :)

On the flip side, I get irritated with receiving offers. I will sometimes post I have a few cels I'm willing to take offers on. Either I don't get any responses or I get extremely low offers. I understand everyone wants to get a bargain but some are just crazy. However, I'm still very polite in stating that I won't accept the offer. In some cases, I'll even state "I paid over $xx" so they realize it was really too low. Again though, I try to state it in a nice way because I do appreciate the attempt at trying to buy for me when I opened myself up to offers.

When someone is extremely rude to me though, I delete those emails without repsonding. I also try to never reply when I'm angry. You can't be too trusting at how you sound in that state of mind. And I'm one of those people who hates getting pestered about a cel. If someone inquires about a cel, I will put in my private comments to ask said person first when selling. But if every month you're reminding me, then I'll make sure I sell it to someone else instead if I choose to sell it.

During my last offer period, I stated "no offers under $50" because I wanted to make sure everyone understood that I paid over $50 for each item listed. I am very tired of receiving offers of $10 or $20 for items I bought for $200 plus. I know the market changes and that's why I try to stay reasonable with my prices. For example, I have an Inuyasha cel I bought for $40 years ago. I wouldn't expect more than $50 for it even though the Inuyasha market is crazy insane right now and I know I could get $500 for it. However, it's one of my treaured cels so it's not leaving me any time soon. :)

One last thing on this long post X| , I hate hearing people ask how much do you for this or I don't know what to offer. On the "how much do you want for this", I would have just posted for sale at $xx if that were the case. On the "I don't know what to offer", do a little research! It doesn't take that long to watch how a couple of auctions are going for a similiar item.
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I strongly prefer not to make offers. It has to be a very, very special cel for me to do that. I'm trying to remember the last time I ran into one of those, and I can't.

I admit that I look at a lot of pages of "cels for offers", but until prices go up, it's all window shopping.

I've accepted offers on my cels in the past, and always answer politely even if the offer is nowhere in the ballpark. Being nice doesn't cost anything.

When I decide to let any of my cels go, I put a price on them. Maybe I could have gotten more. Maybe not. But I know that if they sell, I got what I thought they were worth, and that's good enough for me.

If I want to auction a cel, there are several sites which handle that kind of thing. It's quite a bit less wear and tear on me to let their software manage who's high bidder.

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on why people will message every month, (note I do not keep messaging people if i've been promised first dibs on a cel... but, this has happened to me a couple of times and is probably why some others keep reminding/asking every month)... i go on... if they are like me, in the past they have been promised first dibs on a cel, should the owner decide to sell (in my case they were selling, they just weren't sure when).... and said seller, said that they would let me know when they were going to sell this cel, which was a big big want of mine... and i didn't pester them about selling it to me as months past... for the very reason you mentioned, i didn't want to annoy them... but when the seller did sell the cel, they put it on ebay, and i lost out... was never contacted again after the promise of getting first chances to buy it. and this type of thing has happened to me on a couple of occassions.

and i tend to ask people how much they want for a cel, and let them know that i don't know how much to offer - is b/c i don't know if the person paid 30 and is willing to sell for 30-50... and if i'm willing to pay 125 or something, I don't want to say "I can offer up to $125, then have that be the offer that is accepted" it's paranoia on my part... not that i'm always looking for a bargain, i just don't what to pay 3x's more than what the seller is willing to part with a cel for. and i can do research... and when i've seen squence mates sell for between 100 and 200 - what do you offer? oooooi...

I just worry too much, think too much... i don't like offending people, b/c i've gotten so very rude responses back. i've also been not to fond of offers b/c i've been working with people... they'll say i want cel A and B - but I'll say well, i'm not wiling to part with B, but I'll sell A for $X, please let me know. Then get NOTHING back... oi... or having the deal set up, and when fixing to set up payment, the buyer disappears. >_<

part of the hobby i suppose... anyways... i'm just ranting... don't mind me... *goes back to the dark corners of photoshop and dreamweaver*
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