Do you post your full gallery online?

lys · Post by **lys** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:54 am

I agree with Krafty's rant ^^. The only reason I could see not posting a cel was if the studio themselves were on a man-hunt trying to figure out who stole their piece of acetate. As far as bidding, whoever has the bigger pockets (or who *thinks they have the bigger pockets and then pay for it later*

) is going to be the winner of that auction. No reason not to show off that sweet acquisition!

Anyway, back to the topic.. I voted yes (or try to) even though I have almost nothing in my Rubberslug gallery. I actually have almost everything scanned but I am working on a cool Flash gallery to put them in. So I will use that excuse for now

fetish4minx · Post by **fetish4minx** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:40 am

Luv ya rant, Krafty!

marie

fetish4minx

kira · Post by **kira** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 12:15 pm

yup. would like to display the two furuba pieces i have. but whoever mina bought them from told her not to. so just like remi said, i havent displayed them. only because mina asked not to.

most any sale now that where they say they cant be displayed i pretty much tend to not buy.

kymaera · Post by **kymaera** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 12:43 pm

As said before, I do have all my cels up. I should mention, though, that the
ones that used to be Baakay's cels are still up in her gallery instead of mine.
It was a deal that we worked out afterwards so that she wouldn't be publicly
embarassed about falling for the "magic beans" line. Oops. Pretend like you
didn't read that. Nothing to see here...move on.

Dustie · Post by **Dustie** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 12:46 pm

Krafty wrote:

When something's yours you should do with it what you see fit. If you want to display it online, you damn well should and no-one should have any complaints. I respect you for wanting to keep the peace Remi, but if it were me I might even display it just to annoy the person/people who objected. They are selfish and plain stupid- it has no effect on them and life's too short to worry about a few ignorant, faceless internet users.

If I were to put an item online after I agreed not to, then I would be breaking my promise. Honestly that is worse in my book than not being able to show something online.

kisara · Post by **kisara** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 1:08 pm

Krafty wrote: I might even display it just to annoy the person/people who objected.

Mr. Krefta. . . *giggles* I luvs ya.

Ashura · Post by **Ashura** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 2:33 pm

wwwpurple-plumcom wrote:Ya,
but I noticed some people don't always post their whole gallery or parts of it is restricted and that way I can't see some of their beautiful cel. What's the point of paying a lot of money...if you're the only one who gets to see them?

~Katie

I voted no, because there is a point in spending a lot of money for the cels or sketches and not putting it up. I didn't buy them so that I could please other people, its for my own enjoyment.

I assume that most people who haven't put up their entire collection is due to being lazy or just not having the time, which is my excuse.

Ashura

Baakay · Post by **Baakay** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 4:22 pm

Uende wrote:So you guys would look good together cheek to cheek?

Don't tempt him

Mine are all up there. Even the butt-ugly freebies from the MCK collection... some of them so ugly that they're cute, in a sick sort of way!

And why? because I like to look at my cels without having to heave them out of the closet every day. Besides, I crack me up... my "nothing new here" running gag in the alt text tags always makes me giggle. Hey, maybe nobody else even notices, but I do, and that's why the collection's there, right?

Besides, I enjoy marvelling at the sheer lack of any sort of discrimination in quality or taste that I display. I've purchased really down-at-the-heels cels (the kind that are advertised as having "massive line loss" just to see if I can make them lovely again. I can. It gives me an odd sort of sick satisfaction to know that somewhere out there is a purist collector who is reaching for the defibrillator when they discover that I've actually retouched the lines...

BTW, Kymaera is pulling your collective pullable parts. I only fell for the magic bean trick once, and that particular Zelgadis cel + some very tender loving care = still a prize in my gallery.

Oh! P.S. I also do everything fully assed. And why? because I'm not convinced that half of my a$$ would fit.

(*ba-DUM!*)

Remi · Post by **Remi** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 7:18 pm

Dustie wrote:Krafty wrote:
When something's yours you should do with it what you see fit. If you want to display it online, you damn well should and no-one should have any complaints. I respect you for wanting to keep the peace Remi, but if it were me I might even display it just to annoy the person/people who objected. They are selfish and plain stupid- it has no effect on them and life's too short to worry about a few ignorant, faceless internet users.
If I were to put an item online after I agreed not to, then I would be breaking my promise. Honestly that is worse in my book than not being able to show something online.

There's that, and there's another, perhaps more motivating reason for people for whom giving their word isn't enough. Most of the time, the seller is someone who could very potentially have something else you want to buy in the future. If you agree not to show something, and then go ahead and do it once you have it, the chances of that person contacting you the next time they sell something, whether it can be posted online or not, is pretty slim.

Besides, when someone makes such a request, you are always free to say no. I mean, you could just tell them there's no fun for you to own a cel you can't show online, but if they change their mind and you can show it, you'd buy it then. For a truly gorgeous dream cel, I don't see that happeneing much, so really if you accept the terms, you should abide by them.

By the way, there are reasons why people make such requests, and it's usually to keep themselves out of trouble for having sold it. If they were kind enough to think of you before someone else who also would have bought it in an instant, being respectful of their wishes shouldn't be all that hard.

BleedingOrange · Post by **BleedingOrange** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 7:48 pm

I always thought it'd be kind of funny if I posted an image of a cel that had been burned to a crisp, but just enough of it left to tell what it was... and it was an AMAZINGLY RARE cel.

A photoshopped image of course, but imagine the emails I'd get. HA.

Krafty · Post by **Krafty** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 8:37 am

Dustie wrote: If I were to put an item online after I agreed not to, then I would be breaking my promise. Honestly that is worse in my book than not being able to show something online.

Remi wrote: There's that, and there's another, perhaps more motivating reason for people for whom giving their word isn't enough. Most of the time, the seller is someone who could very potentially have something else you want to buy in the future...

I completely appreciate your views Dustie/Remi, I too am very considerate of other people's feelings and would abide by their wishes if it were important to them/our friendship/my honour.
I've been in that situation before; haggling a big purchase of cels from a particular seller/collector. He requested that I don't sell them but keep them in my collection. It was a condition of selling me this nice batch at good prices. I was happy to do this, we both knew the situation.
If he asked me not to display them, that would be a different story but I'd tell him outright that that was my intention. By communicating diplomatically with people, you can usually work something out that's mutually acceptable...

However, I wrote my rant based on the perspective of someone you outbid on an auction and I still stand by that.

BleedingOrange wrote:I always thought it'd be kind of funny if I posted an image of a cel that had been burned to a crisp, but just enough of it left to tell what it was... and it was an AMAZINGLY RARE cel.

That's an incredibly cruel but ingenious idea BO! Please go for it! ^__^
Just imagining how some people might react if you said it was a Ghibli opening cel of the main character or something... mwahh ha ha

(ohh that's harsh)

jcaliff · Post by **jcaliff** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 8:54 am

I remember when Nadesico cels first came out, and I really wanted to buy a Gekigangar cel from Curt. But he said that if I bought any of his Nadesico cels that as a condition of the person he got them from I wouldn't be allowed to post them in my online gallery. Which is why, to this day, I don't have a Genkigangar cel.

If I were to sell it, would I have to tell the next person down the line that they couldn't display it either? It gets a little rediculous. I would have liked to have had it, but I am also of the opinion that if I buy something that it should be mine, to do with as I please. Previous owners claims, especially the owner before the previous owner, shouldn't be a part of it. It was worth much less to me if I couldn't display it, and to simply buy it and display it anyway would have strained a relationship with the seller. Rather than deal with that, I just didn't buy the cel at all. I have yet to see a cel, and I mean ANY cel, wishlist or not, that I would accept that kind of condition on.

Lynxa · Post by **Lynxa** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:15 am

I have never been in the situation of having a seller ask me to not display a cel, but I believe I would probably refuse to buy it with that condition attached. Not so much because it would diminish the value of the cel, but because when I buy something I want to buy the WHOLE THING. When the seller keeps the right to allow you to display it, they are retaining a part of the cel and I don't think I could agree to that.

And, as Jcaliff pointed out, where would it end?

But people harrassing you about a won auction????? Wow, what jerks! I think you should post those cels and direct all hate mail to me.

: I'll make them cry.

frozentime · Post by **frozentime** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:14 pm

I, and several other I know who haven't posted, would fit in the "no" category for several reasons.

1) Oversized or framed cels are a pain to image capture.

2) Multiple cels from the same sequence. I don't use my gallery as documentation for insurance purposes, so I don't see any point posting several similar images if the gallery is for other's enjoyment.

3) Requests (or even implied circumstance) not to post. There are many legit reasons for this. Some are more political in nature, some are because of a sensitive nature of the materials involved. No disrespect to Krafty, because I realize the rant was aimed more at a specific situation, but that kind of stance (don't like the word attitude here) will keep alot of doors shut to you. For some that is cool, for me it isn't.

Everyone has their own reasons for collecting, all legit. For me, owning and being able to directly view the artwork is the reword, though I have to admit the hunt is really fun.

My Gallery is open in part so that my cels aren't hidden away from the rest of the world, but also for the more selfish reasons that I enjoy interacting with collectors of similar taste, and it aids in the hunt for wish list items. The numbered reasons often override my desire to share the images with others, but for me that is still better than not having the cels at all.

Post by **JWR** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:30 pm

I have most of my cels up with the exception of those that don't fit anywhere IE: celga freebees or cels I had to buy to get the main cel I wanted. That and several cels that I will not post due to their poor condition.

As far as other items I mainly collect which is original Comic Book Artwork I so far have only posted a small amount due to the fact that most of it is way too large for my scanner.

To me having a gallery on Rubberslug justifys the large dollar amount I have spent on cels for it gives me a chance to share them with others. It would not be as fun of a hobby if I did not have that ability for I have never been one to keep them hidden.