Very confused about what kind of cel this is . . .

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Very confused about what kind of cel this is . . .

Post by Palance »

Hi everyone,

I recently saw this cel on Yahoo Japan auctions from Nausicaa, but i've never seen a cel layered onto what looks like a timing sheet/acetate.

Does anyone here know what this is? I watched the movie of the weekend and didn't see this in there so i'm wondering if it's just for modelling or some other fanciful reason:

http://www3.snapfish.co.uk/snapfishuk/s ... _44143059/

Very new to me.
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Post by sensei »

Wow, that is a new one for me as well. Frankly, it looks damaged to me. See how there's tape burn in two places at the top of the "timing sheet."

It's possible that it is a harmony cel, meaning that the bottom layer is a watercolor painting and the top layer is a piece of acetate with trace lines on it. If one of those sheets was placed on a new photocopy, the print from the copy could stick to the plastic, leaving an impression that would be hard to get off.

There's a Vampire Princess Miyu cel that I own that has print from a photocopy stuck to it. This happened before it was photographed, so the studio had to have a kabuse (correction) layer made to cover up the damage.

It's possible that in the Nausicaa set-up, the cel layer with the trace lines on it was accidentally laid on top of the paper timing sheet, and the print from the top of the timing sheet stuck to the back of the cel. And possibly the damage on this piece was so severe that it was simply set aside and never used.

Any other suggestions?
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Post by iceman57 »

Similar writings than a classic Ghibli layout/rough blank sheet that had been xeroxed (don't ask me how or why) on the cel but only partially, cutting the rest of info. Looks definitively like an accident...

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Another explaination possibility can be a volunteer xeroxing and this idea comes from the 2004 Miyazaki/Moebius exhibition in Paris, there was an Omu with 8 layers and guidelines to create the sliding effect (one element after another). Consequently lines can be usefull for animators to have a guideline during this complex character animation.
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Post by Palance »

Thanks for the thoughts on this guys - much appreciated.

Bit of a mystery, but an interesting one that i'd never come across before.

Thanks again!
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