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Prince Vegeta · Post by **Prince Vegeta** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 7:45 am

BleedingOrange wrote: I think what we've determined here is Gohan is obviously better in like, any form.

Well actually...SSJ2 gohan was really week in every possible way. He got defeated against cel and bojack.....and if it wasn't because of kakarot who worked his #$# off to get all of gohan's power's out, then gohan would have gotten killed anyways

AND....as cell said in his fight with trunks...it's not all about strength. Although trunks in his buffed up form was a lot stronger than cell, he was still getting kicked around because cell was faster. In this case, vegeta kept training and getting stronger while gohan kept getting weaker and weaker until he became more or less a waste of oxygen

. So just because gohan had more power at some point (again because of goku), does not make him at all a stronger or better fighter. A strong fighter will always be that strong and would not need other people's help on how to bring his strength out everytime he fights

I'm not even going to get to goku....good fighter, but......anways

So I think what we've determined here is that Vegeta is obviously better in like, any form. :bubbles

In_Gabriel_We_Trust · Post by **In_Gabriel_We_Trust** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 8:14 am

Welcome to the forum !
(I'll stay away from the entire debate though)

celgami · Post by **celgami** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:39 am

We all know that Hercule is the greatest fighter! He defeated Cell and Buu, or Uub. But the question was, who's your favorite between the two?

They are both pretty popular with collectors. As far as cels go, I'd rather have a ssj2 Gohan with dad doing the kamehameha against Cell than any Majin Vegetas I've seen.

BleedingOrange · Post by **BleedingOrange** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 5:20 pm

I never said that Vegeta wasn't a better fighter. But he sure doesn't seem to win a lot if he's so good.

And Gohan is indeed better, in like, any form. It matters not what Cell said to Trunks about beefing up... because Gohan according to Trunks "got it right," so therefore he got stronger and didn't lose speed. So he was indeed strong. Goku said he "mastered his powers." The only thing that held back Gohan was his lack of self confidence and his worry for destroying the earth with his own power.

However, Vegeta is a better warrior, since Gohan doesn't really care about fighting. He just never wins any fights unless it's against someone Krillin could beat.

dbzredneck · Post by **dbzredneck** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 5:48 pm

Ahhhh, but you were tryin to say that Gohan is a better fighter. Now that you admit Vegeta is a way better warrior, then everything is all gravy. I just wish that when someone finds good smoke that they'd share and not hold out, because clearly you must've ran into some good stash on your first couple of posts. Share man... Share.... We over here want to see what you saw. hehehe

Nathan · Post by **Nathan** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 7:09 pm

Welcome -
I like SSJ2 Gohan Better...

I read somehwere that SSJ2 Gohan in cel Saga was The SSJ2 Form at it's limit... we really didn't see how strong his power was... never really used full power against cel before his arm was hurt, and when he defeated cel his power was cut in half.

In the tournament Vegeta Said that Gohan was no where near as strong as he was against cel - but he still went SSJ2 in that tournament, so obviously he was at the bottom end of the scale.

Gohan in the cel saga was stronger thatn M Vegeta... I believe that.
However Vegeta is a better tactician\Warrior... as always hi arrogance\cocky nature is his downfall...
Actually Gohan had that problem against cel... he was strong enough to beat him... but wanted him to 'suffer' for a while...

Lynxa · Post by **Lynxa** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 8:27 pm

Welcome!!!

Nice gallery!

Personally, I never really liked Gohan all that much and watching Maijin Vegeta gave me happy goose bumps

Sure they both kind of "cheated" but Gohan had a large green man unlock his potential (and then daddy had to stay on his butt until he USED it) and Vegeta asked a small green man to TAKE AWAY HIS SOUL! How cool is that??????

"Excuse me, these warm fuzzy feelings are getting in the way of my beating the #$#@& out of things, would you mind making me hate again?"

Vegeta is hard core. And looks WAY better in those little blue spandex suits......

*ahem* What were we talking about?

dbzredneck · Post by **dbzredneck** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 8:30 pm

Well put Lynxa.

hyelakingsfan · Post by **hyelakingsfan** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 8:41 pm

Wow, my welcome page turned into a argument page

Next thing you know we are going to turn into super saiyans and shoot energy blasts at eachother

I personally love both ssj2 Gohan and Majin Vegeta but i think Majin Vegeta would be my favorite out of them two but i might change my mind but for now its Majin Vegeta

http://dbzgt.rubberslug.com/gallery/home.asp

birdie · Post by **birdie** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:29 pm

Welcome hyelakingsfan!

I'm not going to join in the "discussion" I'm hung up on the red-eyed red-furried guys from GT.

Just wanted to say Hi Harry and post lots!

Prince Vegeta · Post by **Prince Vegeta** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:04 pm

ss_4_gogeta wrote:Ahhhh, but you were tryin to say that Gohan is a better fighter. Now that you admit Vegeta is a way better warrior, then everything is all gravy. I just wish that when someone finds good smoke that they'd share and not hold out, because clearly you must've ran into some good stash on your first couple of posts. Share man... Share.... We over here want to see what you saw. hehehe

....ss_4_gogeta......i think i see a nice tag team match coming (or handicap match if bleeding orange could not find a partner)......bring it on.................... :dbz:

dbzredneck · Post by **dbzredneck** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:10 pm

I'm with ya buddy!! :dbz:

Goldknight · Post by **Goldknight** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 8:49 am

Wasn't sure whether to move this to the dragonball z/gt discussion section or the people forum. heh.

hyelakingsfan · Post by **hyelakingsfan** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 11:58 pm

I have to thank everyone who welcomed me and i have already started my engine by posting many times and coming up with new topics, and i hope to continue that everyday. But i am going to have a little break because i am going on a mini vacation for 2 days so when i get back i will refuel my tank and start posting again

BleedingOrange · Post by **BleedingOrange** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 11:39 pm

vegeta66 wrote:
ss_4_gogeta wrote:Ahhhh, but you were tryin to say that Gohan is a better fighter. Now that you admit Vegeta is a way better warrior, then everything is all gravy. I just wish that when someone finds good smoke that they'd share and not hold out, because clearly you must've ran into some good stash on your first couple of posts. Share man... Share.... We over here want to see what you saw. hehehe

....ss_4_gogeta......i think i see a nice tag team match coming (or handicap match if bleeding orange could not find a partner)......bring it on....................

Everybody loves Vegeta at first.... until they realize much later that he sucks. He is not a good fighter, he loses just about every fight he was ever in. The reason I say he is a good "warrior" is because he actually wants to fight and is ruthless when he can actually win. But Gohan is a better "fighter" at that time. Of course much later on he isn't because he never trained. But I'm talking SSJ2 Teen Gohan here.

But if you want me to talk good about Vegeta (I don't hate the guy!)... I'll give him this. He was smart enough to know the limits to USSJ and wasn't stupid like Trunks. Sadly, he just didn't have the abilities of Goku or Gohan to attain that kind of power on his own. He also doesn't give up easy. Gohan does. AND........................ Gohan would not have killed cell if Vegeta hand't distracted him long enough for him to do so.

Besides, we all know Goku is the coolest of them all!

Though also the dumbest.

But my favorite character is none of these guys. I like King Kai.