Selling to someone with series specific vs. not as much!?

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Does Who you Sell to matter?

Yes, I only sell to the hardcore fans
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No, doesn't matter if the price is right
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Can't say cause no one wants my stuff...
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Selling to someone with series specific vs. not as much!?

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The title may be vague but my question is simple "would you perfer to sell your production of art to a person who has many from that series (perhaps a major in what they are collecting) or does it not matter to you?

I ask this because I am curious if the size of a persons collection of that series would sway you to sell or do the opposite (believing they have to much...?)

My Take

To me, I dont really care to much. However if two people where offering the same price I would most likely sell to the person who has more from that series as I feel they might better apperciate it verses someone who only wants to collect a few cels from the series but focus on other series..

Whats your take?
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Re: Selling to someone with series specific vs. not as much!

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EternityOfPain wrote:The title may be vague but my question is simple "would you perfer to sell your production of art to a person who has many from that series (perhaps a major in what they are collecting) or does it not matter to you?
I don't think the SIZE of their collection of that one title would matter much to me. For me...other factors come into play a lot more than that one. If I didn't know the person I was selling it to I would prefer (all other things being equal) to sell to someone who didn't sell off parts of their collection as often.
I ask this because I am curious if the size of a persons collection of that series would sway you to sell or do the opposite (believing they have to much...?)
I don't really think about another collector "having too many" unless if one of those people keep acquiring them time and time again and yet I'm never able to get anything from it. THEN maybe my mind starts to wander in that direction. :D :evilblk :sweatdrop :D
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To me, I dont really care to much. However if two people where offering the same price I would most likely sell to the person who has more from that series as I feel they might better apperciate it verses someone who only wants to collect a few cels from the series but focus on other series..

Whats your take?
If two people asked me at the same time offering exactly the same amounts and I know both of them equally....

...other factors would come into account:

1. How likely are they to sell them?

I suppose subfactors of that could be things like:

A. How long have they been collecting? I've known several collectors that started collecting and then decided to sell everything off within eight to eighteen months because they didn't like the hobby and/or realize they can't afford to collect. If they just started collecting within the past three months I would feel slightly wary. :P

B. Are they about to start college? I've known a few people that sold (nearly) everything off when they started college.

C. Gallery turnover? For example: What percentage of their gallery gets sold off each year? This is kind of like using a mutual fund rate turnover percentage to guesstimate capital gains. :P

But the above would only come into play if all other things were equal. It's not a real-life situation, but in the back of my mind...if I had a preference...that's what they would be. In my imaginary world eh. :D
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Money talks.

But I will always give first offer to people who collect the same series I do. I'd like to know the cel will be loved and if I collect the same series as another "hardcore collector," then I'll probably contact them first. It's natural to assume they would be more interested than others if it's their preferred series.

I don't sell much tho, less than a dozen pieces since I started collecting. Even most of those were freebies. So my answer was mostly good hearted conjecture.

However, if anyone wants to sell their Giant Robo cels, PLEASE, for god's sake, contact ME! :P
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When I started collecting cels, I used to sell because I wasn't good at being selective enough. In the past three years+, I've only sold for two reasons: 1) I was phasing from cels to sketches and wanted to give my less appreciated cels new homes. 2) Selling off parts of a multiple cel or sketch set that didn't interest me as much...this gives them a home that they'll probably be better loved in, and it helps keeps my paper volume down a bit. Making back a little of my money while I'm at it certainly doesn't hurt. :D

The only thing I can think of that would prevent me from selling to someone is if I knew they had a deserved bad reputation. An example is poor eBay feedback, though it is certainly not the only example.

There's no way to really tell who might "want it more." Someone who has a cel as "Will Give Kidney" might end up selling it two months later to fund something else, while someone who doesn't even have it in their wishlist might keep it for the rest of their lives. Even then, maybe the first person agonized over selling it (then regretted it forever), and maybe the second person actually forgot about it, leaving the cel unlooked at, just another acquisition. So, I don't really think about these things...I just sell to the first person who contacts me or the highest bidder. If I know of someone who might be interested, I might try to offer it to them first. Unfortunately, I don't always remember these things, and for items with more people potentially interested, it's easier to just put it up with a price or for auction.
However if two people where offering the same price I would most likely sell to the person who has more from that series as I feel they might better apperciate it verses someone who only wants to collect a few cels from the series but focus on other series..
If two people were offering me the same price, I'd take the first offer. Size of a collection shouldn't matter...it could mean anything. Maybe you are right...or maybe the collector with more has more money to throw around. Maybe they aren't very selective. Maybe the collector with less is a pure quality collecter, only going after the few items that hit home.
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Post by aernath »

Wow. I get to be the first to click on "yes". 8O

I'm rather attached to my collection emotionally. I recently let guilt get the better of me, and put a piece up on ebay, only to panic and sell it to someone I knew would treasure it, and pulled the auction. I just couldn't stand the thought of it going to someone I don't know, going somewhere I couldn't still visit it online.

I dunno, maybe I'm a freak, but I love my Heatthrobs, and wish only the best for them if I sell. :D

Oh, and size doesn't matter, it's the passion that counts. :wink:
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aernath wrote:I'm rather attached to my collection emotionally. I recently let guilt get the better of me, and put a piece up on ebay, only to panic and sell it to someone I knew would treasure it, and pulled the auction. I just couldn't stand the thought of it going to someone I don't know, going somewhere I couldn't still visit it online.

I dunno, maybe I'm a freak, but I love my Heatthrobs, and wish only the best for them if I sell.
I think it would be different for me if for some reason I was forced to sell the heart of my collection. Maybe that's why I couldn't actually bring myself to vote...
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redwolf wrote:There's no way to really tell who might "want it more." Someone who has a cel as "Will Give Kidney" might end up selling it two months later to fund something else, while someone who doesn't even have it in their wishlist might keep it for the rest of their lives. Even then, maybe the first person agonized over selling it (then regretted it forever), and maybe the second person actually forgot about it, leaving the cel unlooked at, just another acquisition.
That about sums it up for me, too. A bit on the morbid side, but production art that has been well cared for should outlive its owners... which pretty much means that we're all just temporary curators, anyway. If I've made the decision to let a piece go, then as long as it ends up with someone who understands the need for proper care, I'm happy.

In a perfect world, though, my one real preference would be that everything I sell goes to a gallery, so that I can at least visit whenever I start missing it. :)
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redwolf wrote: You might be a freak, but if so, then it's for entirely different reasons. :^^: :D :dban <=ripe for crushing...
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I agree with Aernath, as I wish only the best for any of my cels and that they wind up in good collections. Part of the reason why I hate selling on Ebay, because anybody with an account could bid on it, and that cel could wind up in not-so-nice hands.

Money doesn't necessarily talk, and I speak true to this with a few SM collectors that I have dealt with. We've known each other for a long time, and anytime we have something up for sale, we give each other 'first dibs' because we know it will stay in a good home. A good chunk of my cels were aquired this way, and I'm very glad to have those that I can look to when they have a cel I want and/or I have a cel they want and we can exchange, and know exactly where those cels are going.

But I've already dealt with those select few that I thought I offered a more-than-reasonable amount of money, and someone else comes in and tops my offer. For example, this happened to me 2 years ago on a dreamcel of mine, as another collector offered $200 more than I did, and the seller went with this collectors offer, even though I have told her many times that it is a dreamcel and would never turn around and resell it. But in her instance, money only talked. So since that incident, I hold true to those that I tell if it's a wishlist and/or cel that they really want to have and won't turn around and sell it for higher profit, that I sell it off to them, regardless of the price tag.

But for those cels that I don't have wishlist/wouldn't sell labeled on them, the others I usually go for how long I've known the collector and how long cels stay in their gallery. Sometimes I only get two offers on the cels, and if I don't know either person well enough, then I just go with the higher offer.
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I sell to whoever's insanely in love with the character.

I think it's less in love with the show, but more with in love with the character.

That's my take. I'm pretty sure as you collect you'll agree it's more about one or two characters per show and not the show itself!

I'll usually ask a few questions and see how much more in love with the character they are then I am. :vict :vict :vict :vict
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How do you handle rejection?
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Cloud wrote:How do you handle rejection?
That's a good question Cloud! As part of the process if someone rejects me. I try twice as hard to make them like me.

If that doesn't work. I try 4 times as hard. Then 8 times! Then 16 times! Then 32 times! Then 64 times! Then 128 times! Then 256 times! Then 2^n as n approaches infinity times as hard! Because love is infinite!

and you of all robots, Cloud would know that! You know we love you cloud!

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I won't take it personally.
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Post by monkeyboy »

It's Pepto time! :wink:

As for the question of the thread, I take it to mean this.

Sell to a collector who likes the show/character or someone who may just be a buyer/trader-up.

I'd be happier for a cel to go to a home where it is appreciated than to a "market" collector where six months from now it's up for sale again.

As said, this is just my take on the question.
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