Rubberslug Wishlist Search Feature

Keropi · Post by **Keropi** » Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:27 pm

I often wish that Rubberslug had a wishlist search feature.

I know a lot of people don't have their own rubberslug wishlists posted, but I'd find it fun knowing who's looking for what. But I suppose having it would come with a price as well. Someone might want to mess around with the information they find in them.

How would you feel if Rubberslug added such a feature?

SME · Post by **SME** » Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:32 pm

I have a personal reason why I chose not to display a wishlist page, but I do support the idea of having a wishlist search.

I love helping out others in finding their wishlist cels. I'm currently on a hunt for a friend of mine who really wants a specific wishlist cel, even though she had a chance at one not too long ago but sadly lost it.

I actually helped her acquire a wishlist a while back after I was browsing a sale site and managed to get that cel on hold for her!

It's a nice feeling to help out fellow collectors in their search for their wishlists.

I currently have a few that also help browse for my wishlists and several have been granted thanks to them. I think it would be extremely helpful for those that would like a bit of help, or a notice that their specific wishlist has been found.

And way off topic, but this is officially now my most favorite emoticon, for now hehehe:

sugarcels · Post by **sugarcels** » Tue Apr 03, 2007 7:20 pm

That would be neat

Easier for me to to help people and for them to help ME

Heh.

ReiTheJelly · Post by **ReiTheJelly** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:46 am

That would be fun, but I can see way too many unscrupulous people abusing the system.

cutiebunny · Post by **cutiebunny** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:34 pm

I might be the voice of dissent, but it seems rather foolish to live in fear that someone is going to take your wishlist(or increase the price) solely out of spite or for revenge of another cel you might have won from them.

If you treat people with kindess and don't publically(and privately) say things to hurt their feelings, why worry that someone is going to do this to you?

Take the recent example of Kittens winning her dream cel. She made several posts asking if we backed off and, although I was not up to watch the countdown of that auction, I believe that most potential bidders for that item did allow her to win. While there may be a few bad cookies out there, the majority of us view this as a hobby and enjoy seeing everyone's new additions.

Having been in this hobby for quite a while, I already know what my rival bidders will be after. I know their patterns, their interests, their auction site ID and many times, their limits. Does that mean I'd get up at 4am just to snipe them at the last second? No - I rather enjoy my sleep. Besides, I benefit by their wins in that I get more eye candy to look at while at work.

I have posted several items tht I'd love to find on my wishlist. Will it hurt me to lose them? Not really. There's 200 Sailormoon TV episodes, 3 OVAs and a plethora of hankens and commercial animation out there. I've never had a problem of finding something to spend my money on.

SME · Post by **SME** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:18 pm

cutiebunny wrote:I might be the voice of dissent, but it seems rather foolish to live in fear that someone is going to take your wishlist(or increase the price) solely out of spite or for revenge of another cel you might have won from them.

If you treat people with kindess and don't publically(and privately) say things to hurt their feelings, why worry that someone is going to do this to you?

While there may be a few bad cookies out there, the majority of us view this as a hobby and enjoy seeing everyone's new additions.

Having been in this hobby for quite a while, I already know what my rival bidders will be after. I know their patterns, their interests, their auction site ID and many times, their limits. Does that mean I'd get up at 4am just to snipe them at the last second? No - I rather enjoy my sleep. Besides, I benefit by their wins in that I get more eye candy to look at while at work.

Pardon me, but since when did you all of a sudden become a voice of reason? As I recall, correctly, I, as well as many others, remember when you have commented in a person's Rubberslug weblog about having no problem putting a dent in someone's wallet, especially if they were a rival. This stirred quite a bit of commotion in said person's journal. Then you post this. Now, to me, that sounds a bit like a hypocrite.

Now if you have changed your ways and thinking, that's great. But from what many have recalled, what you are preaching here is far different from your actual words that were displayed on that Rubberslugger's weblog. I'm just merely pointing out that if you are going to tell us what we already know and should follow, then that hopefully means you are doing the exact same.

So in theory, with all that you had said in the weblog, doesn't a person not merit "foolishness" due to ones actions before and acting to protect themselves from a "vengeful" bid, just so that they pay more? I think you might want to choose your words wisely, especially if you are going to use such a derogatory term.

Cloud · Post by **Cloud** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:18 pm

It usually does, doesn't it?

Labinnah · Post by **Labinnah** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:24 pm

The only downside to everyone knowing your wishlist items is price.

I came across one of my 'Will Give Kidney' cels on a site not too long ago, and after talkin to the seller for a bit, he found my RS gallery wishlist (which had his cel on it) and I swear to you the price suddenly doubled. I don't even know how to deal with that. I'm not exactly private with my list (because seriously, I want to find these things!), but I feel it's very wrong to increase a price simply because you know someone wants it more than the average buyer.

And don't worry, it was noone on here or RS. I'd never even seen the gallery until that fateful Google search. I've long since edited my wishlist as well, bumpin that former 'Will Give Kidney' to somethin a little lower. Don't wanna look desperate, ya know

Keropi · Post by **Keropi** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:03 pm

Yeah...I had a feeling about that.

There's a downside to having a search feature and it's a pretty big downside if it's used against you. Kind of sucks about the things you can't go into in the hobby because of its negative effects.

Just like it would be cool having a sketch availability list, but you can't create one because someone would get into trouble because of it. Unfortunately some things in the hobby you just have to keep to yourself.

klet · Post by **klet** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:59 pm

cutiebunny wrote:I might be the voice of dissent, but it seems rather foolish to live in fear that someone is going to take your wishlist(or increase the price) solely out of spite or for revenge of another cel you might have won from them.

I don't think this is the downside everyone was talking about. At least, that's not what I worry about.

I think it would be cool to be able to search wishlists when you get ready to sell some items from your gallery, just so you could contact people who want them (ideally) and thus get the cels sold without having to deal with advertisement or Evilbay.

The downside *I'm* thinking of is if another collector saw the cel on your wishlist and purposely offered it to you for a great deal more than market price--or, a great deal more than the collector can pay. I know my kidney is not worth as much as that of someone with a real job.

Some sellers might not realize that they're overcharging, but it's impossible to tell unless you know the person really well. Then, they wouldn't have to check your wishlist to see that you want that cel, now would they?

RoboFlonne · Post by **RoboFlonne** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:29 pm

I wish for way too much to make a list!

cutiebunny · Post by **cutiebunny** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:22 pm

SME wrote:Pardon me, but since when did you all of a sudden become a voice of reason? As I recall, correctly, I, as well as many others, remember when you have commented in a person's Rubberslug weblog about having no problem putting a dent in someone's wallet, especially if they were a rival. This stirred quite a bit of commotion in said person's journal. Then you post this. Now, to me, that sounds a bit like a hypocrite.

Now if you have changed your ways and thinking, that's great. But from what many have recalled, what you are preaching here is far different from your actual words that were displayed on that Rubberslugger's weblog. I'm just merely pointing out that if you are going to tell us what we already know and should follow, then that hopefully means you are doing the exact same.

So in theory, with all that you had said in the weblog, doesn't a person not merit "foolishness" due to ones actions before and acting to protect themselves from a "vengeful" bid, just so that they pay more? I think you might want to choose your words wisely, especially if you are going to use such a derogatory term.

I believe the purpose of this post was to mention that, if you are a decent person and don't speak poorly of others, that the chances of someone increasing the price of an item you want will be slim.

However, if you constantly insist of trying to make other people look poorly, then it should be no surprise when other rivals increase your bids, right, SME?

In one instance a few years ago, I did increase the bid out of spite because I did not appreciate how a particular bidder was acting towards other collectors. It's hard to break my law enforcement mentality(standing up for others, etc), but I do make the effort.

However, I do not actively troll around YJ at 4am looking for deputy accounts in the hopes of increasing their prices. I don't think anyone here behaves in such a fashion either.

Yes, klet, I agree that there might be those that have your wishlist and will use it to extort a huge sum of money from you, but, my experience has been that what I want is either an A1/Tome/End cel or something so oddball that no one else has it either. But, if someone really wanted to do that, wouldn't it be easier to just run through my gallery and take notes as to the type of things that I collect?

RoboFlonne · Post by **RoboFlonne** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:58 pm

I don't think the Search for Wishlist will be any different from search of Galleries and then clicking on the wishlist button

So If this was implemented it wouldn't be any worse then if someone searched for something in the regular galleries, and then going to the wishlist section.

If someone has wishlists of a character or a show then they would definitely atleast have one cel from that show or of the character.

So really Keropi's wish is already granted. Just search for Sakura / Fate Stay Night and then look at Johann's Wish list to see if he likes Sakura.

Keropi · Post by **Keropi** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:30 pm

RoboFlonne wrote:If someone has wishlists of a character or a show then they would definitely at least have one cel from that show or of the character.

Hence the problem. And I'm interested in a lot of titles that have nothing posted on Rubberslug yet. Not that I recommend the posting of those titles since I don't want to post anything from them either, but I'd hardly be able to find any titles I'm interested in on wishlists through that method.

I should just go through 974 open galleries and see what's there. It shouldn't take too long. It took a lot longer figuring out the other stuff I worked on the last time.

So really Keropi's wish is already granted. Just search for Sakura / Fate Stay Night and then look at Johann's Wish list to see if he likes Sakura.

I should figure out the percentage of the titles I'm looking for that have anything posted from them at all on Rubberslug in the last ten months (even printed and copied items). Can't be too many that's for sure.

RoboFlonne · Post by **RoboFlonne** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:51 pm

Keropi wrote:
RoboFlonne wrote:If someone has wishlists of a character or a show then they would definitely at least have one cel from that show or of the character.
Hence the problem. And I'm interested in a lot of titles that have nothing posted on Rubberslug yet. Not that I recommend the posting of those titles since I don't want to post anything from them either, but I'd hardly be able to find any titles I'm interested in on wishlists through that method.

I should just go through 974 open galleries and see what's there. It shouldn't take too long. It took a lot longer figuring out the other stuff I worked on the last time.

So really Keropi's wish is already granted. Just search for Sakura / Fate Stay Night and then look at Johann's Wish list to see if he likes Sakura.

I should figure out the percentage of the titles I'm looking for that have anything posted from them at all on Rubberslug in the last ten months (even printed and copied items). Can't be too many that's for sure.

If no one is posting the things like dark Sakura then there is a 0.00000001% chance that they would put that on their wishlist. So it probably won't help you! If you are looking for something... You can tell me and I'll help look for it!