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I am sorry, but that was so funny!

I remember something similar happen to me, although, it was kind of worse because they pulled out some guns, which was not very funny.
My community has a new rule where people under 18 cannot be outside after 10:00 pm in the neighborhood because of some kind of problem that they recently been having over major drug dealings. And apparently, they do these dealings in the neighborhood playground.

Well, I was visiting my mom for a week with my friend, and they had puppies. So, at around 9:30, we decided to go walking, and I took 2 of the puppies out to the grass at the playground so they could have a bit of fun (they were about 3-4 weeks old).

Suddenly, we go circled by two police cars and they brought out there guns and beaned really bright lights at us. They apparently thought we were 16 year old drug lords from the area, even though we were 25 and 27 years old!

They never did apologize to us, but told only us to not do this again because of the problems they've been having.

Well, anyway, long story short, my parents are moving away from that neighborhood within the year. They absolutely hate the place now because it has gone down so much.
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transmet wrote:
Not Sir Phobos wrote:Overall the situation and what happened was goofy IMO, but there are circumstances where it is logical.
Uhhh..... a father and his daughter out walking?
Yup, like I said, goofy.
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8O Whoa. Lots of replies. :^^: Thanks everyone.
transmet wrote:That's what you get for not staying home in front of either your television or computer or whatever other flickering box you own. Don't you realize we're living in a Bradburian Society?
I know. I must've lost my mind. :D I'll think twice next time I deceide to leave my TV all alone.
Captain Haddock wrote: I've been stopped a couple of times myself in my youth principally because I had my hood up on my hoody, on a skateboard and I was in a posh area. They soon retreated when they heard my 'unsuspicious' accent.
Now thats absurd! :x
Carla wrote:I would have told the cop if you where bored go eat some donuts :P
Actually my knee jerk reaction was to ask if we were speeding. :) But luckily I caught myself before I said it. :P

Krafty wrote:"This is a local town for local people, we won't have any trouble here"!
With your comment, "it didn't look like we came from the community" I was reminded of this scene from The League of Gentlemen series [YouTube clip] :D
:) Now thats FUNNY! Thanks for sharing! :D
Not Sir Phobos wrote:Actually being a 3rd person to this I'd say it actually could have been VERY resonable. What if there had been a few breakins that month in that neighborhood and everybody living there was on "orange alert"? I wouldn't have called the cops myself but I wouldn't get mad at, say, my neighbor Edith calling the sheriff, because she is a frail old lady and cannot handle herself with an intruder like I can.

Overall the situation and what happened was goofy IMO, but there are circumstances where it is logical.
Yeah I could see how people might report the incident because alot of people are paranoid in the world. But i'm more surprized that the police actually responded. We only walked a few blocks away from our home and there hasn't been any sort of incident in the area for awhile now.
toonybabe wrote:Ugh, I put no trust in the police anymore. Last year I actually had a police officer falsley accuse me of drunk driving. I was completely sober, on my way to delivering my paper route. He followed me for 3 miles trying to see if I would "slip up" then when I didn't, he pulled me over anyways and said that I was weaving. He snuck up the side of my car with his hand on his gun and then motioned for me to roll down my window. As soon as I rolled it down he asked "Mam, which bar did you just come from?" When I answered that I had not been drinking and was completly sober he tried to say that my car "reeked of alcohol." He said that he could smell the alcohol "pouring out of my car." I don't drink, had never brought alcohol inside that car and there was no alcohol smell whatsoever. The cop asked me 5 different questions trying to get me to say that I was drunk.

Finally I just asked him if he would give me the blood alcohol test so I could be on my way. He made me do all of the tests (stand on one leg, walk the line, pen test, etc) and then asked me to get back in the car. Then he called for backup. When the other cop car got there I got scared and called my parents, telling them that I think the cops were trying to illegally arrest me for drunk driving. My parents had routes too (we need the income to pay for college for my sister and I) and my dad drove over to question the cops. He knew I wasn't drunk because I had been with him all night. They actually pulled their guns on him and told him to leave or they would arrest him too. After my dad left, the cop made me wait in my car another 40 minutes and then he wrote me a ticket for going 49 in a 35 mph zone and weaving within the lane.

I wasn't speeding or weaving or drunk and that cop knew it. He lied to my face and wrote me a bogus ticket. Before he let me go on, I looked at him and told him that he just wiped away all of my trust and confidence in the police and that I would "see him in court!" I was so angry, I could barely throw my route I was shaking so bad with anger.

The next day we went to a lawyer and he took my case for $250.00 because he was so sickened by the cop's corruption. He told me that if I hadn't called my dad that the cop would have probably arrested me for drunk driving. I was shocked, but the lawyer said that they do it all of the time, especially to young kids. He said they arrest people who are completely sober, take them to the jail, make them take the blood alcohol test and when it comes back negative they make them take a urine test and then hold them for 2-3 days while they wait for the results to come back. When the results come back negative, then they just charge you with speeding or weaving or pretty much whatever they want to. The lawyer said that this corruption and fascist behavior was a huge money maker for police forces in small towns and suburbs.

Anyway, my case went to court and I pretty much won - I just had to pay a $20 fine because the judge wouldn't take the weaving off of my record. The lawyer said that is was just the judges way of "saving face" with the police department even though he knew I was innocent too. But the best part was that THE COP THAT WROTE ME THE TICKET WAS SHAKING AND STUTTERING WHEN HE HAD TO FACE THE JUDGE (AND ME W/ LAWYER AS PROMISED)! Haha, just seeing the cop tremble made it worth the money and trouble to contest the ticket!

So, after that whole experience I really don't have too much faith in cops or elected officials. I know they have difficult jobs and that most of them are probalby good. Like the average person I always knew that some cops could be corrupt, but when something like this happens to you, it is a whole 'nother story. Just remembering that cop looking into my eyes and staring at me staight in the face while he lies to me and write me a ticket, makes me sick. I am just shocked that it happened in my hometown, where I grew up. I had never been in trouble with the law in my life, and after this I really am starting to question everything about our government and our society.

So, ya never ever trust the police...ever ever!
WHOA! 8O Now thats is incredible! I'm glad you fought the ticket. Sounds like you scared the cop and rightfully so. :evil: Good thing the Judge sided with you too. I agree with you I don't trust the police either. You can't tell whos corrupt and whos not. Like my parents always told me "The Government is NOT your friend." (perhaps I'm being paranoid here :^^: )

wELCOME cONSUMER wrote: A good thing to say when an officer approaches your vehicle is to politely inform him/her that you are recording their conversation. Whether it's true or not, it's perfectly legal and the thought of being recorded will sometimes keep the officer in line. Most cell phones have a memo feature that allows you to record your voice for several minutes, or just call someone and let them stay on the line while you interact with an officer. My mom got out of receiving a citation for "illegally using her horn" when the car in front of her wouldn't move at a green light. The officer started arguing with her and she said she was recording everything and he begrudgingly let her go with a verbal warning.

We need policing but we don't need individuals that are drunk with power and bogus quotas.
Thats a good tip! I'm going to have to keep that in mind. :)
star-phoenix wrote:I am sorry, but that was so funny!
It is very humorous. :D I must say I've never had that happen before.

Stinks about your folks. :x I hope they find a better neighborhood to live in.
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wELCOME cONSUMER wrote: They are there to serve and protect, not to badger and harass.
Accctually...
technically Police are not legally bound to protect citizens

http://www.firearmsandliberty.com/kasle ... ction.html

For the paranoid if they'd like to read why.
:wink: :D

Any case, that really sucks Peguinton! and toonybabe
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Unfortunately, police departments operate distinctly
according to townships. Some are better than others, it really
is a reflection on who is in charge of the town and chief
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Shampoo is correct, police or the government are not here to protect the individual, they are trained as a reactionairy force. Which is why firearms for individuals is the best alternative by taking the responsibility of protection into a person's own hands. Unfortunately there are a lot of people in America who believe that the police are indeed here to protect and serve the individual and are only interested in taking away the 2nd amendment. *coughhillaryclintoncough*

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Not Sir Phobos wrote:Unfortunately there are a lot of people in America who believe that the police are indeed here to protect and serve the individual and are only interested in taking away the 2nd amendment. *coughhillaryclintoncough*
I get that your comment is directed at Clinton, but it's not unfortunate that people believe in the first half of that statement. It's not supposed to be "us vs. them" when it comes to agencies like the police force. They should be held accountable. There are failures in the system and they should be remedied, not simply chalked up to an increasing alienation between people and their government. I don't see how the 2nd amendment has anything to do with this thread, seeing as none of the stories posted could have been resolved by carrying firearms of any kind.
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wELCOME cONSUMER wrote:
Not Sir Phobos wrote:Unfortunately there are a lot of people in America who believe that the police are indeed here to protect and serve the individual and are only interested in taking away the 2nd amendment. *coughhillaryclintoncough*
I get that your comment is directed at Clinton, but it's not unfortunate that people believe in the first half of that statement. It's not supposed to be "us vs. them" when it comes to agencies like the police force. They should be held accountable. There are failures in the system and they should be remedied, not simply chalked up to an increasing alienation between people and their government. I don't see how the 2nd amendment has anything to do with this thread, seeing as none of the stories posted could have been resolved by carrying firearms of any kind.
The 2nd amendment is so that the individual can protect itself. Since the government's official stance is that if you call them and they goof up, letting you be victimized for 14 hours or more, they are not held accountable because POLICE HAVE NO ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE INDIVIDUAL. Then it becomes an issue of protecting one's self.
wELCOME cONSUMER wrote:I don't see how the 2nd amendment has anything to do with this thread, seeing as none of the stories posted could have been resolved by carrying firearms of any kind.
If you read the link that shampoo provided it includes a story about three women who rented a home together. Some people broke in and started abusing one of the women downstairs. The two women upstairs called the police repetedly as they could hear their friend being attacked. After half an hour of calling the police and being assured that help was on the way their frien'ds screaming had stopped. The 2 women went downstairs as they thought the police were there taking care of the bad guys. Nope their friend had just been beaten into submission. For the next 14 hours they were raped, beaten, and made to perform sexual acts on each other for the attackers amusement.

The police were sued by the victimized women and lost.

Now imagine if one of those women had a gun.

And yes it is unfortunate because situations like this arise where the people think the police will be there to help them, and to salt the wound afterwards the police pull a "oops my bad, but it's not our problem".
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