Scanning problem I've not encountered before...
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Scanning problem I've not encountered before...
One of my Yahoo Japan auction wins came with a random freebie cel that happened to be from an anime I not only love, but from which cels are VERY hard to find! Yay! So I happily popped it on my scanner and.....
....it won't scan. It is of two cats and one of the cats is pink. The pink seems to be photoinvisible. Everything scans normally except the pink cat, which comes out white. Now, I'm no stranger to photoinvisible colors (many highlighter pen colors fall into this catagory), but I've never run into a cel with paint that was a photoinvisible color.
Has anyone else run into this and come up with a way to trick a scanner into scanning a photoinvisible color? I really hope so, because I don't want to have to hit up photoshop and color it pixel by pixel. o_0
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....it won't scan. It is of two cats and one of the cats is pink. The pink seems to be photoinvisible. Everything scans normally except the pink cat, which comes out white. Now, I'm no stranger to photoinvisible colors (many highlighter pen colors fall into this catagory), but I've never run into a cel with paint that was a photoinvisible color.
Has anyone else run into this and come up with a way to trick a scanner into scanning a photoinvisible color? I really hope so, because I don't want to have to hit up photoshop and color it pixel by pixel. o_0
Many Sharp Smiles,
--Drac
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I don't know if this would work....
When I take pictures, I use a black frame and the colors turn out crisper?
Maybe try a black frame?

It may help with contrast?

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Lots of people have trouble with pinks on their cels. I'd love it if someone found a workable solution . . .
Here's one of my problem children:
http://misfit.rubberslug.com/gallery/in ... mID=158056
I also recently scanned a CCS cel that had the prettiest pink background, but it came out not pink at all, and I ended up messing with the coloring of the entire piece to get it to look a little better.
Here's one of my problem children:
http://misfit.rubberslug.com/gallery/in ... mID=158056
I also recently scanned a CCS cel that had the prettiest pink background, but it came out not pink at all, and I ended up messing with the coloring of the entire piece to get it to look a little better.
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Hmm...
I have these two:
http://galexia.otakuspot.net/index.php? ... 1&celID=42
http://galexia.otakuspot.net/index.php? ... 1&celID=25
That were scanned with a Canoscan that was capable of scanning Negatives. It was a while ago. If I remember correctly, I originally made sure that I calibrated the colors correctly. I think there was something of a person- color wheel combination similar to those that are used to calibrate the daylight printers in 1hour photo labs. After that, I just made sure the colors seemed ok with everything else... With those two particular cels, I did a preview scan to make sure the colors were ok, and just scanned them in. I may have messed around with the curves -I don't remember. They were then imported into Photoshop 5.0. Other than that, I've scanned in plenty of bubblegum pink Sailormoon merchandise in the past as well as cards -no problems with color at all.
I have these two:
http://galexia.otakuspot.net/index.php? ... 1&celID=42
http://galexia.otakuspot.net/index.php? ... 1&celID=25
That were scanned with a Canoscan that was capable of scanning Negatives. It was a while ago. If I remember correctly, I originally made sure that I calibrated the colors correctly. I think there was something of a person- color wheel combination similar to those that are used to calibrate the daylight printers in 1hour photo labs. After that, I just made sure the colors seemed ok with everything else... With those two particular cels, I did a preview scan to make sure the colors were ok, and just scanned them in. I may have messed around with the curves -I don't remember. They were then imported into Photoshop 5.0. Other than that, I've scanned in plenty of bubblegum pink Sailormoon merchandise in the past as well as cards -no problems with color at all.
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My scanner HATES pink. It either shows up hardly, or not at all.
Check out this cel: http://sugarcels.rubberslug.com/gallery ... mID=168958
Miyu's veil is supposed to be a deep pink, but here it's almost non-existant.
Check out this cel: http://sugarcels.rubberslug.com/gallery ... mID=168958
Miyu's veil is supposed to be a deep pink, but here it's almost non-existant.
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Hi Folks,
Try playing with your Gama setting on your computer , your scanner may be set lighter or darker than your monitors screen.
Use the help menu to look up Gama settings for your monitor.
Note:some scanners have changable Gama settings also.
This helps a good part of the time!
Good luck!!!
Roy
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Try playing with your Gama setting on your computer , your scanner may be set lighter or darker than your monitors screen.
Use the help menu to look up Gama settings for your monitor.
Note:some scanners have changable Gama settings also.
This helps a good part of the time!
Good luck!!!
Roy

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if the other suggestions dont work, here is one more. try playing with the hue/saturation in photoshop. that might help. sometimes the scanner preview doesnt pick up every color, for whatever reason. my scanner scans differently depending on the amount of light in the room, the thickness of the artwork, etc. so it probably has nothing to do with 'photoinvisibility'. cels were meant to be photographed, so all the colors should appear.
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I don't have any suggestions, but I remember hearing somewhere that certain scanners will not scan shades of red to pink. Because the government does not want you scanning currency... Something do with a chip?? I'm not sure this is true...
But I had a scanner that would NOT scan my Sakura cel from episode 40 correctly no matter what I tried. So when it finally broke I rescanned it with my new scanner and voila! it worked. VERY CREEPY!
But I had a scanner that would NOT scan my Sakura cel from episode 40 correctly no matter what I tried. So when it finally broke I rescanned it with my new scanner and voila! it worked. VERY CREEPY!
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You know, I tried looking everywhere for what 'government restriction' it was that was supposed to be in effect with scanners.... I can not find anything about it anywhere. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place. So far I've heard that a "Sailor Moon Red" turns out brown... I'm really starting to think that it is just the quality of the scanner used and/or lack of calibration. Although, perhaps the age of the scanner may play some part in it too... Anyone have anything specific on this?Caroline wrote:if the other suggestions dont work, here is one more. try playing with the hue/saturation in photoshop. that might help. sometimes the scanner preview doesnt pick up every color, for whatever reason. my scanner scans differently depending on the amount of light in the room, the thickness of the artwork, etc. so it probably has nothing to do with 'photoinvisibility'. cels were meant to be photographed, so all the colors should appear.