When your cel smells...

kizu · Post by **kizu** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:41 pm

I have one cel that smells vinegary..... Anyone know what I can do about it? Or how I should store it? I don't want to junk it because it's a nice cel and I like the character.

Kata · Post by **Kata** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:52 pm

I never had that happen myself so I'm not sure. What series is it?

moonrabitt · Post by **moonrabitt** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:50 am

Mmmmm....I know that the cels from the anime:
"The Brave of Gold Goldran" smell really really weird....I don't have them with me, but I know it's a VERY weird smell....I think it may be due to the paint or plastic used, since it does look different than my other cels.....
Not sure how to stop the smell.....

Cordelia · Post by **Cordelia** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:20 am

Air it for a few days for the smell to dissipate. I'm not sure if you can get rid of it entirely. Could be the acidic fumes from the acrylic paint, may cause cel warping. When you store it, don't bag it and try to let it breathe.

kizu · Post by **kizu** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:00 am

Kata - it's a cel from Daimos, it's a 70s robot show... It's the only one however that smells out of all my cels.

moonrabbit - LOL... Yes it's very funky. It's probably the paint reacting to the acetate but then again, why would my other cels from the same show not have this problem... Hmm...

Cordelia - I'll try it. The odor is really strong... Ay but I really like this cel. I guess this is where they got the "let your cel breathe" reason. I never could figure out why that.

irmgaard · Post by **irmgaard** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:21 am

Kizu, it's the acetate itself

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Here's another forum's discussion about the problem, but referring to film leader:

http://www.efilmforum.com/showthread.php?t=8368

and one about microfilm:

http://list.uvm.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=seria ... 71157-0400

You can look up Vinegar Syndrome to find many articles about it.

Belldandy16 · Post by **Belldandy16** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:22 pm

some of my cels stink too and ive been wondering if maybe putting baking soda where i keep my cels will maybe help minimize it? the powder wont be touching the cels, of course (ill get those freezer boxes where you open the sides and they have a film so the soda wont get out but where it can breathe)?
idunno, just a thought. its really concerned me too. its so strong.

kizu · Post by **kizu** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:22 pm

Thanks for the info. At this point I removed it from my regular storage and placed it in a frame all by its lonesome. Kind of sad to think the acetate is corroding. It's only been 30 years... Kind of reminds me the transient nature of these cels.

mightymask · Post by **mightymask** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:07 pm

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iwakuralain16 · Post by **iwakuralain16** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:45 pm

mightymask wrote:There are several fine douches on the market today -

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Palance · Post by **Palance** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:10 am

Hmm... interesting thread because i've always wondered about my Berserk cels - about 90% of which smell of TCP/Anti-septic.

A couple of them are framed now, and a couple i keep in a well aired storage cupboard, but the smell hasn't dissipated.

Is there any danger here do you think?

aernath · Post by **aernath** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:51 am

Wild!

The only thing I've had smell unusual was a set of sketches that very obviously came from a smoker.

Now, my husband is going to really doubt my sanity as I go sniffing my cels!

kizu · Post by **kizu** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:26 am

Thought this article on acetate film was rather interesting... Cold temps help but that kind of goes against the paint maybe?

http://preserve.harvard.edu/pubs/acetatefilm.pdf

Anime-Beta TNG

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