Star Trek thoughts...

blueheaven · Post by **blueheaven** » Sat May 09, 2009 9:22 pm

I just saw the new Star Trek film in IMAX (only way to see it), and I must say that I am impressed. I am not a fan of the TV show, but I did like a few of the movies. This film really outdid my expectations.

1. I liked the way they reconciled the differences from the old mythology with the time travel story.

2. I loved the humor. Even Zach Quinto had some very funny lines for Spock.

3. Great references to the show: the red suited guy dying on the jump, the odd Trekkie colloquialism, the Kobayashi-Maru. All in all, it stayed true to the chronology.

4. The only thing I disliked was that we were not really told what effect the "slug" had on Pike. We don't know if he cracked or not, and we don't know what (if any) injuries he suffered. He was in a wheelchair, but we don't know if it was permanent.

Keropi · Post by **Keropi** » Sat May 09, 2009 10:19 pm

I haven't seen it yet, but I've been getting spoilered on it for quite a few months now.

Bob Orci (one of the writers) replied in the Trekmovie.com comment section today saying that Pike's spine was damaged by the thing. I didn't see his reply to questions asking if the damage was permanent.

Judging from Bruce Greenwood's comment that he would be open to coming back for another movie, I kind of figured that they were leaving the question open about possible permanent damage to his spine.

dbzmomma · Post by **dbzmomma** » Sun May 10, 2009 4:05 pm

I'm going to see it tonight. Back with more thoughts on the movie later. BTW, I grew up on Star Trek, but the only one I ever saw all the way through without missing an episode was DS9. I know I'm in the minority, but I think it's the best of the lot - an epic.

jenn-b · Post by **jenn-b** » Sun May 10, 2009 4:44 pm

Loved it. Period! I need to get out to see it again.

blueheaven · Post by **blueheaven** » Sun May 10, 2009 8:01 pm

dbzmomma wrote:I'm going to see it tonight. Back with more thoughts on the movie later. BTW, I grew up on Star Trek, but the only one I ever saw all the way through without missing an episode was DS9. I know I'm in the minority, but I think it's the best of the lot - an epic.

I know what you mean. I grew up watching the reruns, but it was more of a time-waster than anything. The only Star Treks I could get behind were movies 2-4, and Generations. I suppose, in the great sci-fi debate scheme of things, I am more of a Star Wars guy.

dbzmomma · Post by **dbzmomma** » Sun May 10, 2009 8:36 pm

This movie hits the ground running and never stops! My son never watched Star Trek and thought the movie was great. We talked about it all the way home. Since I didn't see many trailers or read any hype, I was surprised at all the actors I knew.

Took me awhile to recognize Karl Urban (McCoy) - goes to show what a really good actor he is. I was most disappointed that Scotty (Simon Pegg) didn't get a bigger role, but happy that the movie was true to their characters.

My son said, "Kirk really got his ass kicked!" He did in the series, too! :hitting:

Kata · Post by **Kata** » Sun May 10, 2009 9:25 pm

I went to see the Movie tonight and it was awesome. I always been a fan of the original series with Kirk, McCoy, Scotty, Spock and the rest of the original cast so this movie was a treat for me ^_^

LLslickD · Post by **LLslickD** » Sun May 10, 2009 10:38 pm

Only ever seen about 5 episodes of the TV show and a few movies. This one was amazing so far the best movie of the year in my opinion. "We've given her all she's got captain!" I couldn't help but clap.

dbzmomma · Post by **dbzmomma** » Mon May 11, 2009 4:07 am

I was waiting for the "I'M a doctor, not a [fill in the blank]!" haahaahaa

Keropi · Post by **Keropi** » Tue May 12, 2009 1:17 pm

I tried to find the answer to this question some time back by reading twenty five pages of comments from people who attended the movie's pre-screening, but couldn't find it.

My question is....

Who did the movie characters think Spock-prime (older Spock) was? Just another Vulcan?

Was Kirk the only character from the Enterprise who knew who Spock-prime really was?

blueheaven · Post by **blueheaven** » Tue May 12, 2009 1:57 pm

Keropi wrote:I tried to find the answer to this question some time back by reading twenty five pages of comments from people who attended the movie's pre-screening, but couldn't find it.

My question is....

Who did the movie characters think Spock-prime (older Spock) was? Just another Vulcan?

Was Kirk the only character from the Enterprise who knew who Spock-prime really was?

Eventually, Spock-prime was revealed to young Spock, and the two had a conversation which was very interesting. As far as I know, young Spock, young Kirk, and the Vulcan elders are the only ones who know who Spock-prime really is.

miz ducky · Post by **miz ducky** » Tue May 12, 2009 5:15 pm

Really great movie! I loved it!

Keropi · Post by **Keropi** » Tue May 12, 2009 5:28 pm

blueheaven wrote:
Eventually, Spock-prime was revealed to young Spock, and the two had a conversation which was very interesting. As far as I know, young Spock, young Kirk, and the Vulcan elders are the only ones who know who Spock-prime really is.

Sounds very intriguing! I look forward to seeing those scenes when I get to watch the movie.

At first I was wondering why the movie writers decided to do what they did to Vulcan and then realized they wanted to make a definitive break from the original timeline. Even if you get used to Kirk's father's time period getting altered, Vulcan is going to cause a lot more butterflies in the long-term. I thought it was a clever way of handling the situation.

When is the next movie coming out 2011?

transmet · Post by **transmet** » Fri May 15, 2009 12:43 pm

Loved the movie - felt it was about as good a script as one could hope for in trying to retell the origin story of these almost mythical characters, which is saying a lot about the talent of these actors. April Webster (the casting director) should definitely be nominated for an award - too bad the Academy still as of yet doesn't deem the profession worthy of consideration.

My problem is with the physics of the movie:

1. Why do you need to bore to the center of the planet to create the singularity when a probe carrying the "red matter" could be hit with phaser fire near the planet, creating the same desired effect? IT'S A BLACK HOLE, for goodness sake.

2. Spock-Prime is supposed to save the Romulan homeworld by engulfing said planet's star (which is going supernova) into a black hole? Such a catastrophic change to the dynamic of the solar system would still spell doom for both Romulus and Remus, the first and foremost being that there wouldn't be a star to support life on the planets - not to mention their orbits would be changed, most likely towards the gravitational pull of the event horizon! That's why the Romulans have been repopulating thousands of other worlds.

There are several other examples as well.

I had to laugh at McCoy's line, "Dammit, I'm a doctor - not a physicist!" Apparently, there weren't any real physicists anywhere nearby.

Keropi · Post by **Keropi** » Fri May 15, 2009 10:55 pm

Here's Bad Astronomy's review of the Star Trek Movie:

MOVIE SPOILERS:
http://trekmovie.com/2009/05/09/bad-ast ... star-trek/

Yeah...too bad they didn't go with the Gamma Ray Burst in the movie. It would have made a lot more sense.