
Beta Sketch Awards for Summer?
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so lets go give them a voice!zerospace wrote:Ah ha! Well then people need to speak up!

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I like most of the categories that were used for the A-B cel awards. The only weird one might be something like the HARMONY category, since there is no difference in a harmony sketch from any other (that I'm aware of). I really like the TRANQUILITY category which has been suggested.
Just out of curiosity (and this could go for the cel awards, too)... are hankens allowed in the hentai category, since they really shouldn't be in the regular hanken category.
Speaking of hankens, was it ever decided if hankens had to be completely hand-drawn, or can people enter ones with photocopied lines which have been intensely colored/shaded?
Just out of curiosity (and this could go for the cel awards, too)... are hankens allowed in the hentai category, since they really shouldn't be in the regular hanken category.
Speaking of hankens, was it ever decided if hankens had to be completely hand-drawn, or can people enter ones with photocopied lines which have been intensely colored/shaded?
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Excellent questions! I'd like to hear what everyone's thoughts are on these as well.ReiTheJelly wrote:Just out of curiosity (and this could go for the cel awards, too)... are hankens allowed in the hentai category, since they really shouldn't be in the regular hanken category.
Speaking of hankens, was it ever decided if hankens had to be completely hand-drawn, or can people enter ones with photocopied lines which have been intensely colored/shaded?

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I, too, agree that, for the sketch awards, that the harmony catagory should be eliminated. The technique, in my opinion, doesn't apply to sketches.ReiTheJelly wrote:I like most of the categories that were used for the A-B cel awards. The only weird one might be something like the HARMONY category, since there is no difference in a harmony sketch from any other (that I'm aware of).
I'm ok with this, but I'd like to know what everyone else's views on this are. The purpose of making the hentai catagory optional was for those who do not enjoy the artwork to be given of the option of not having to look. The only problem I can see is that we would have to define 'hentai' and not allow artwork that comes from a hentai work to be submitted to hentai solely because it comes from an adult work.Just out of curiosity (and this could go for the cel awards, too)... are hankens allowed in the hentai category, since they really shouldn't be in the regular hanken category.
I would say that, since not all hankens are hand-inked, that photocopied lines should be permitted(as that is the normal way that cels were made). However, there should be some original work done to it, such as a correction, colored shading, and things of that nature.Speaking of hankens, was it ever decided if hankens had to be completely hand-drawn, or can people enter ones with photocopied lines which have been intensely colored/shaded?
Another question - in the event of settei packets containing colored scenes or a page with just a colored character, how should we approach it? Should we allow the scene to be applied to whatever category the image applies to? I don't quite think that these pages apply to settei since, my understanding of that category is that the settei sheets featuring a character and their different poses/expressions is what is permitted.
Thoughts?
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Concerning the "mixed media" issue, I think it would be valid to allow sketches that were done on a photocopy base, provided that the primary impact of the sketch was provided by original artwork, rather than by the part that is photocopied.
I have more than one item that began as a photocopy sheet and was marked up by a studio artist to the extent that it is difficult to distinguish what was copy and what was original art. Many are backgrounds, and if you look closely, you'll see the ghosts of the characters from the color copy, but now nearly hidden in the luxuriant foliage added in colored pencil, marker pen, and a variety of colored highlighters.
My sense is that this is a matter that could and should be handed on an item-by-item basis by the organizers, but that the rules should stress that the work to be judged should be original art work, not photocopy.
Another issue: should we consider reducing the number of categories, given the numbers of participants? While there's no reason to limit the prizes, if submissions are going to be ruled out of contention because too few were sent in to a given category, that could be a problem.
I've never won a Beta award, but I once did submit a cel that was so intimidatingly superior to any other in its category (Worst Cel) that no one else contested and so the award didn't get given out. I'd hate to have that happen to a really good sketch for the same reason.
I have more than one item that began as a photocopy sheet and was marked up by a studio artist to the extent that it is difficult to distinguish what was copy and what was original art. Many are backgrounds, and if you look closely, you'll see the ghosts of the characters from the color copy, but now nearly hidden in the luxuriant foliage added in colored pencil, marker pen, and a variety of colored highlighters.
My sense is that this is a matter that could and should be handed on an item-by-item basis by the organizers, but that the rules should stress that the work to be judged should be original art work, not photocopy.
Another issue: should we consider reducing the number of categories, given the numbers of participants? While there's no reason to limit the prizes, if submissions are going to be ruled out of contention because too few were sent in to a given category, that could be a problem.
I've never won a Beta award, but I once did submit a cel that was so intimidatingly superior to any other in its category (Worst Cel) that no one else contested and so the award didn't get given out. I'd hate to have that happen to a really good sketch for the same reason.
Yeah, harmony should definitely be out because it just doesn't exist for sketches.ReiTheJelly wrote:I like most of the categories that were used for the A-B cel awards. The only weird one might be something like the HARMONY category, since there is no difference in a harmony sketch from any other (that I'm aware of). I really like the TRANQUILITY category which has been suggested.
I think hentai hanken should be contained to the hentai category. That's why we separated it in the first place.

Personally I think I'm with sensei on this one. I'd want the artistic impact mostly to come from the original artwork. This would mean that the line work would have to mostly be original, and the shading/coloring/whatever would have to really overshadow whatever photocopied elements there are.Speaking of hankens, was it ever decided if hankens had to be completely hand-drawn, or can people enter ones with photocopied lines which have been intensely colored/shaded?
Original settei that is colored is exceedingly rare, and I would say it should be included in the category. Of course it has to be determined that it's original and not a copy.cutiebunny wrote:Another question - in the event of settei packets containing colored scenes or a page with just a colored character, how should we approach it? Should we allow the scene to be applied to whatever category the image applies to? I don't quite think that these pages apply to settei since, my understanding of that category is that the settei sheets featuring a character and their different poses/expressions is what is permitted.
