2009 Anime-Beta Awards - AWARDS UP!

akadro · Post by **akadro** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:22 am

Every category looks awesome and the website is amazing!

Congratulation on your hard work!

best,

dro

cutiebunny · Post by **cutiebunny** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:32 am

I realize that we were allowed to submit sequence mate artwork if it was significantly different, but, at least in my opinion, I think that female submission #13 is too close to that of a previous female winner in the 2009 sketch awards. Both pieces have what is essentially the same pose and I believe that they are only a few cels away from each other in the same sequence. The only difference is that the catgirl is winking and the hand is facing upwards more in the winning piece, while this entry has a lower positioned hand and a non-winking catgirl.

Goldknight · Post by **Goldknight** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:51 am

The site looks great. Definitely a smaller beta awards this year. Probably because we split the cels and sketches this year. Seems like last year there were pages of entries.

There are some wonderful looking pieces there. Good luck to everyone!

zerospace · Post by **zerospace** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:59 am

First I want to say thanks for all the hard work! I know how much goes into doing this, so ..

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I hate to say it but, this site is way too reliant on graphics for its layout. It becomes especially painful on the viewing pages where some pages are almost 1MB in total size (and therefore can take several minutes to fully load over slower dial-up connections). Some pages even time out over slow dial-ups due to size and (potentially) traffic. The 100k category navigation menu graphic is excessive, IMO. Combined with all the other graphics on each page, a page load speed report shows me that over a 14.4k dialup, it would take almost 600 seconds to load! That's 10 minutes! Most browsers will timeout before that would ever finish loading.

I'm not trying to sound mean or unappreciative, but this is crazy. Some people are going to have a hard time viewing entries due to these page load times and file sizes (my husband using a 56k dialup connection at work has had several pages time out while attempting to load).

If you want to see what I mean, analyze some of the entry pages with the following:

http://www.websiteoptimization.com/services/analyze/

I realize that perhaps not as many folks are using dial-ups these days, but is it really right to ignore them? If you'd like some suggestions on how to reduce your page loading times, I'd be more than happy to explain.

And before anyone gets to jumping on me for this post, I will say this -- a category with 18 entries in last year's awards ... the page for that category was only 116k on the site I created (which would take approximately 1.5 minutes over 14.4k dialup).

Olivier · Post by **Olivier** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:01 am

Amazing entries! We are going to have a very interesting competition

The only thing that surprised me was to see the cel of Battle Angle Alita in the "robot" section. Technically, nothing on this cel shows she is not human. If you know the story, you can argue that she is indeed a robot. However if you know very well the story, you are aware that Gally has a human brain, so technically she definitely is not a robot. Anyway, good luck to the person who submitted this very nice cel, but I consider it off-topic - I don't mind, I did not list any cel in this section, but I think this is an interesting debate to have. Submitting a human-looking character in the robot section is very ambiguous...

iceman57 · Post by **iceman57** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:01 pm

ReiTheJelly wrote:The voting tab is not working for me - I cannot click on it. If I change the URL manually, it allows me to view the page, though.

LOL Rei, are you trying to hack the site

ReiTheJelly · Post by **ReiTheJelly** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:48 pm

Olivier wrote:The only thing that surprised me was to see the cel of Battle Angle Alita in the "robot" section.

This surprised me, too. I've never seen BAA, so I thought maybe this was an error.

I was also surprised to see a hand-drawn storyboard in the settei section, as it is not a cel of any kind.

Settei* - Characters, items or scenery. Model cels are not allowed in any other category. (MC)

iceman57 · Post by **iceman57** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:57 pm

Wikipedia to the rescue :

"ROBOT : Etymology

The word robot was introduced to the public by Czech writer Karel ÄŒapek in his play R.U.R. (Rossum's Universal Robots), published in 1920. The play begins in a factory that makes artificial people called robots, but they are closer to the modern ideas of androids, creatures who can be mistaken for humans. They can plainly think for themselves, though they seem happy to serve. At issue is whether the robots are being exploited and the consequences of their treatment.

However, Karel ÄŒapek himself did not coin the word. He wrote a short letter in reference to an etymology in the Oxford English Dictionary in which he named his brother, the painter and writer Josef ÄŒapek, as its actual originator. In an article in the Czech journal LidovÃ© noviny in 1933, he explained that he had originally wanted to call the creatures laboÅ™i (from Latin labor, work). However, he did not like the word, and sought advice from his brother Josef, who suggested "roboti". The word robota means literally work, labor or serf labor, and figuratively "drudgery" or "hard work" in Czech and many Slavic languages. Traditionally the robota was the work period a serf had to give for his lord, typically 6 months of the year."

Gally works for Ido, so sounds correct.

Olivier · Post by **Olivier** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:02 pm

iceman57 wrote: Gally works for Ido, so sounds correct.

Are you the robot of your boss, even though you are human? Besides Gally never worked for Ido, she was just rebuilt by him. Also, Gally is NOT one of these "artificial people" you mention, since she was entirely biological before her brain was put in a mechanical body.

Nevertheless that's not the point I was making. The problem is one cannot see any mechanical part on the cel, therefore the cel looks off-topic.

Diabolo · Post by **Diabolo** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:36 pm

"Robot - Our mechanical friends. (C) "
Its not said that the mechanical body has to be visible

Why dont you ask that female has to look like a female (in case you dont know the anime) and male have to look like a male (in case you dont know the anime) ?

iceman57 · Post by **iceman57** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:12 pm

Ha ha, and what about ROBOT HENTAI

http://www.punkasspunk.com/futurama/Robot_Porn.jpg
(From "Futurama", Bender's book).

Why not ask what Cloud thinks about ?

cutiebunny · Post by **cutiebunny** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:26 pm

iceman57 wrote:Why not ask what Cloud thinks about ?

Because Cloud is six years old.

Moop · Post by **Moop** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:13 pm

Oops. I see a (gorgeous!) rilezu in the male category.

Diabolo · Post by **Diabolo** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:34 pm

cutiebunny wrote:
iceman57 wrote:Why not ask what Cloud thinks about ?
Because Cloud is six years old.

If Cloud is a dog or a cat, then it is old enough

Angelic-Lair · Post by **Angelic-Lair** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:04 pm

Moop wrote:Oops. I see a (gorgeous!) rilezu in the male category.

Would you mind letting us know which one so that we can contact the person who submitted it and move it to the proper category?
Thanks.