Fire Sale/Gallery Offers

Kata · Post by **Kata** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:24 pm

zerospace wrote: I just would really like to know: what happened to being polite? When I first started collecting, I practically tripped over myself trying to be polite so not to piss off the people I was trying to buy from ...

I would like to know the same. Somehow being polite has gotten less these past few years. I always was taught treat people the way you want to be treated, which to me was being nice and polite. Didn't matter online or in real life always keep that in mind. I've seen some really rude behavior the past few years online. It's sad to see! But personally I believe being polite is always good. ^_^

Maiko wrote:But low-balling $30 for an ENTIRE SECTION when there are 20 or more cels in there, some I paid at least $200 each for, is the lowest of the lowball.

Wow, now that is something I haven't heard yet. @_@ That's the worst I heard so far.

I heard stories with problems during a sale and I had a few things that happened to me, but this is first time I hear with an entire section.

It is sad to hear that that happened, but most important is thought I do hope you able to go for your wishlist item.

majinuub · Post by **majinuub** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 2:10 pm

I have to ask if the person who sent the offer for the entire section is new to the series or collecting as a whole. I remember when I started I couldn't see myself paying more than $50 for a cel. If not...

I'm probably going to get some flak for this and I'm not aiming this at anyone in particular either, but is receiving low offers that is not even hinted at being rude really so offensive or warrant a rude response? I've received low offers myself even for one of my favorite pieces but I just brush it off and send a polite response back. I myself have been a lot more hesitant about giving offers when someone lied about where and what they paid for the item, I would've been more willing to work with them and paid had they been more honest with me in the 1st place.

I also think the person who made the "guess you don't want your wishlist cel bad enough" statement should be called out. It may not stop it in the long run, but it'll show this person that this behavior is unacceptable.

zerospace · Post by **zerospace** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 2:35 pm

majinuub wrote:I'm probably going to get some flak for this and I'm not aiming this at anyone in particular either, but is receiving low offers that is not even hinted at being rude really so offensive or warrant a rude response? I've received low offers myself even for one of my favorite pieces but I just brush it off and send a polite response back. I myself have been a lot more hesitant about giving offers when someone lied about where and what they paid for the item, I would've been more willing to work with them and paid had they been more honest with me in the 1st place.

I don't think it's necessarily rude to send a low offer... I think it's all in how the offer is made. I've received plenty of low offers that weren't rude at all, and normally I politely reply that they need to offer more. Sometimes I'm kind enough to give them a starting point, too -- just to help make their decision a little easier. I've also received some that were quite rude. And there's a difference, at least I think so.

(And no, I'm not necessarily talking about folks who's first language isn't english -- I've received some of the rudest messages from people who are obviously native english speakers).

Again, I wish Maiko the best of luck here! Offer periods are definitely not easy.

Kata · Post by **Kata** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 2:44 pm

majinuub wrote: I remember when I started I couldn't see myself paying more than $50 for a cel. If not...

I remember back in the 90s I felt the same way with not wanting to pay over a certain amount on a cel. I know what you mean. Every person is different with how much they want or are willing to spend on a cel/sketch. Even today, it depends on series, image, scene and so on, I do have a price in mind that I wont go over.

majinuub wrote:I'm probably going to get some flak for this and I'm not aiming this at anyone in particular either, but is receiving low offers that is not even hinted at being rude really so offensive or warrant a rude response? I've received low offers myself even for one of my favorite pieces but I just brush it off and send a polite response back. I myself have been a lot more hesitant about giving offers when someone lied about where and what they paid for the item, I would've been more willing to work with them and paid had they been more honest with me in the 1st place.

I agree with you. I personally don't get offended by a low offer and reply nicely. Sometimes people just don't know how much something is worth (or costs) and best is to let them know with a polite response that you not willing to sell it for that.

I think the key is communication and how to communicate. If you rude and keep on being persistent with it of course you not getting anywhere. The problem I encountered these past years is the communication isn't working (people getting easily offended, people ignoring others by not replying, e-mails getting lost, and so on) and then misunderstandings happen. If people would try to communicate better it might would prevent these things from happening.

majinuub · Post by **majinuub** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 3:40 pm

Thank you both for the elaboration

, and fully agree that communication is an important factor in transactions. I just had the impression that anyone who sends low offers would be condemned or cut off permanently. Not saying that low offers should be fully encouraged either, but perhaps both parties can try to find some kind of middle ground where both can walk away from the transaction happily. I can't really see how someone would want to make a low offer on a high end cel and then feel like the seller should be privileged that their interested in buying from you for that price

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kizu · Post by **kizu** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:06 am

Kata wrote:I think the key is communication and how to communicate. If you rude and keep on being persistent with it of course you not getting anywhere. The problem I encountered these past years is the communication isn't working (people getting easily offended, people ignoring others by not replying, e-mails getting lost, and so on) and then misunderstandings happen. If people would try to communicate better it might would prevent these things from happening.

Agree with you there Kata. Since this seems to be a persistent problem in offer periods, sometimes I wonder if people should just use forms with predefined fields such as name, email, link to item or section and offer price. That way there's no "misunderstandings" on tone etc. And why not set a starting price (that is not a guaranteed sale price) and anyone who offers below that can expect not to get a reply anyway but anyone who offers at that price or above should get a reply. Saves people the hassle of sending offers that isn't satisfactory enough for the seller or saves the seller from a possible low-ball offer and forces parties to communicate. I know it all sounds complicated but nowadays with the way things are in this community the more impersonal communications are, the better it is. No excuse for drama. No wasted time.