VHD: Bloodlust - Real Villian?

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Who is the real villian in VHD: Bloodlust

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Carmilla
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D and the Markus Brothers
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Charolette's Family
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Society in General
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There isn't one
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VHD: Bloodlust - Real Villian?

Post by HotIce »

I've been wondering (since watching this) if Meier is really a 'villian'/'bad guy' at all in this?
he's made out to be in the beginning, sure, he 'kidnapped' charolette. but he didn't really kidnapp her at all...
--would the real villian be carmilla who just seemed to be playing everyone to get some kicks and what she wanted?? or in reality was carmilla truly just trying to help meier and charolette?

--is the villian the hunters?
still going after the girl even though they knew she wasn't kidnapped?? but they were just doing their job?
--is it her family who just want charolette back? they just wanted their daughter/sister back...

--or is it just society itself for not being willing to accept that which is different???
as seen in Leila's mother, and D when he goes to buy another horse from that town....
--Is there one at all? Or are is this just the crazy thoughts of someone who hasn't slept when it's already 9am?
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Post by Lynxa »

Funny, I was just thinking about this since I re-watched the movie last night. I think the real "villain" would be Carmilla since she
basically was just tricking poor Meier and Charlotte for her own evil purposes.
But I think that it is also a bit of a social commentary as well :P
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I went for society as everyone goes up against everyone for all the right reasons.
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Post by celgami »

Society is always to blame...after that, Carmilla.
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Post by In_Gabriel_We_Trust »

and that was the lawyer for the defense. :D
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Post by hyelakingsfan »

I was thinking about that too. I was going to post it but it looks like you already have. Meier doesnt seem like the bad guy. He didnt try to hurt anyone and i think D would have killed him if he was the bad guy. Even though Meier got the cravings to suck the blood out of Charolette, he didnt. (when they were in the chariot) He is just like D. He gets the cravings, but doesnt do it. Well thats what i think.
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Post by Cel_F »

I agree, altho I watched it awhile back so memory's a bit rusty. But Meier didn't strike me as being evil. If anything, I felt for the guy!
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Post by wELCOME cONSUMER »

I agree, Meier is much more of a victim. Constantly having to defend
himself from the attacks of D, Carmilla and the Markus Brothers. This
entire movie is filled with victims. Meier is hunted for what he is and
cannot have what he wants. Charlotte is cast out from normal society
for loving a vampire. Charlotte's family merely wish to recover their
loved one, assuming she has been kidnapped against her will.
Leila lost her family to vampires and has no one in her life to love or
love her (this is resolved at the end of the film). D is also not accepted
by either humans or monsters because he is both and seems unable to escape his heritage (as evidenced by Carmilla's attacks and the events
at the horse stable). The Markus Brothers are just trying to help society
and make a living, but are brutally killed in front of each other.

None of these events would been set into motion if it had not been
for the conventions of "normal" society.

Leave it to HotIce to come up with a great post :D
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Post by Krafty »

We can all see Carmilla as an evil being, I think that's universally understood. But as you all point out, there are good/bad aspects to everyone/groups.
I just wish Kyle slit Charlotte's throat on the bridge when he had the chance- dead or alive, the hunters were told that they'd get their money so that's all that matters. At least Borgoff, Kyle, Leila and Grove could have returned to base and Meier could have burned to death by the sunset. Killing two birds with one stone, sweet.

Does that make ME the villain in all this? heh
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Oh Krafty, you are just too creative and cruel. /kis2
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