all your snakes...

Goldknight · Post by **Goldknight** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 4:32 pm

I have no plans of ever seeing that. As cheesy as it looks that is the stuff my nightmares are made of. I am DEATHLY afraid of snakes. Even if it's cheesy the premise scares the crap out of me. I can see myself not sleeping after that. Basically I have two major fears. Snakes....and Tornados. So guess what other movie I have never seen?

Most people I spoke with said it was a waste of their money. Who knows though....might be good comic relief for some people.

monkeyboy · Post by **monkeyboy** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 4:49 pm

GK wrote:

Snakes....and Tornados. So guess what other movie I have never seen?

The Wizard of Oz? LOL j/k

I wait to see this movie (SoaP) on DVD, I hope SLJ does some commentary. He was great on The Daily Show last week!

blueheaven · Post by **blueheaven** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 6:54 pm

GuyvarIII wrote:
I haven’t seen Snakes on a Plane (I'll wait for the DVD).
But hasn’t this instant cult classic thing been done before? I don't like it but Tarantino's Kill Bill was manufactured to be, and was praised by the critics as, an instant cult classic. Why shouldn’t the same thing work for Snakes on a Plane?

I’ll let my cel gallery speak for my love of cheesy action.

Kill Bill cannot be a cult classic because Q was already established by then. Reservoir Dogs is more of a cult classic. Clerks II doesn't count because Smith is established as well. The only films of his that CAN be cult classics are Clerks, Chasing Amy(a rebound after a flop), and Jersey Girl(ate it in the theatres). Just being an indy film doesn't make it "cult." It has to, on some level, take itself seriously. That is where SOAP fails. It new from the start that it was a shit premise, so I went out and said "We are a cult film. Come watch us!" If people come watch you, then you are not a cult film. Sorry. That is how it works. Sorry if I take this a little too seriously, but this is a genre of film that I love. I love going to stores and looking through DVD bins for $3 movies I haven't seen. Then I wait, and three years later it makes a comeback.

wELCOME cONSUMER · Post by **wELCOME cONSUMER** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:01 pm

Evil Dead, Army of Darkness or even Darkman are not cult classics?

I dunno, I still think you're overthinking this. The Evil Dead movies did not
take themselves seriously and they're definitely cult classics. Rami was not
established for a long long time. Jersey Girl could never be a cult classic
because Smith was a total Hollywood sell out by that point (you see that
in the end of Clerks 2 as well, the guy just can't escape it).

SOAP isn't movie of the year material. But I like to laugh and this movie
made me laugh. I don't see the harm.

Cloud · Post by **Cloud** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:02 pm

Look harder.

HotIce · Post by **HotIce** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:20 pm

am i the only person thinking 'who cares what label a movie has as long as you enjoy watching it?' =\

BTW, I got a good laugh from that flash ^_^ I was thinking I should make one called "All your cels are belong to me"

blueheaven · Post by **blueheaven** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:21 pm

wELCOME cONSUMER wrote:Evil Dead, Army of Darkness or even Darkman are not cult classics?

I dunno, I still think you're overthinking this. The Evil Dead movies did not
take themselves seriously and they're definitely cult classics. Rami was not
established for a long long time. Jersey Girl could never be a cult classic
because Smith was a total Hollywood sell out by that point (you see that
in the end of Clerks 2 as well, the guy just can't escape it).

SOAP isn't movie of the year material. But I like to laugh and this movie
made me laugh. I don't see the harm.

I never said those films were not cult classics? They certainly are. I think the idea of Indy and Cult films are being mashed together. A film can have a studio release and still be cult. Jersey Girl is a cult film because it was panned by critics and ignored by even his most rabid fans. I just don't think you can release a film and call it "cult." It has to develop that title on its own. It's like releasing a film and calling it an "instant classic." That is impossible. For it to be a classic, it has to stand the test of time. SOAP never took itself seriously, it had a great deal of hype and success, and therefore is not a cult film. How can it be "cult" if the majority of America knows about it right from the start? Those three Raimi films are cult films because they were not successful releases, they had comedy(but still took themselves seriously as films in their genre), and had a largely unknown cast and crew. For goodness sake, the most famous actor in Darkman when it came out was Larry Drake!

HotIce wrote:am i the only person thinking 'who cares what label a movie has as long as you enjoy watching it?' =\

I agree, but it's still fun to debate.

wELCOME cONSUMER · Post by **wELCOME cONSUMER** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:35 pm

Ah, that's true Brian. But the movie was not a success. It only made $15 mil
(I think, I'm not sure). I don't know what it cost to produce, but that's a sad number.

I keep hearing "coke classic" in my head, it's amusing.

I'm not really defending this movie per se, but as you said, it's fun to debate.
Is it so wrong for the studios to "make" cult films? I don't see the problem.

So many movies strive to be much more than they really are. I kind of liked
the frankness of SOAP. It's title said it all. I didn't go in expecting anything
more than that and it delivered what it promised. Sometimes you need
simplicity for honest entertainment.

(Yes, you are definitely taking it too seriously, you weirdo).

What about the new Bruce Campbell movie? It's obvious they are trying
to create a cult film (it's all he ever tries to do), will you refuse to see it too?

blueheaven · Post by **blueheaven** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:13 pm

$15 million isn't so much the issue as the fact that it was released wide in over 3500 theatres and was the #1 film this week. And considering the reviews, $15 million is a blessing. Besides, they were banking on making their money back in DVD sales.

I doubt it. The first one had Ossie Davis. But really, how many people saw Bubba Ho-Tep? I think its widest release point was about 150 theatres. Just because they are making a sequel doesn't take away from its cult potential. I might see it if it plays nearbye.

wELCOME cONSUMER · Post by **wELCOME cONSUMER** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:47 pm

I saw Bubba. It was not good. Neither was Man with the Screaming Brain
or whatever. The comic was better, at least it had stylized retro art.

Cloud · Post by **Cloud** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:47 pm

It seemed like good.

RoboFlonne · Post by **RoboFlonne** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 9:50 am

Hi! I'm just curious what the exact definition of a cult classic is?

Star Wars has a cult behind it, is that a cult classic? Or is it not since it was successful?

Not Sir Phobos · Post by **Not Sir Phobos** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 1:07 pm

Ok I agree with some points on both sides. No a movie CANNOT be a "cult" classic untill it has stood the test of time and has kept a following of devoted fans. Office space is a good example of a cult classic, BUT it has brand name actors, and an established director. Yes it flopped in the theatres, but it wasn't an indie film either.

But BH you gotta go see this movie, it has a good draw with the audience, people actually having fun in a theatre, standing up, yelling, screaming, laughing withoug worrying if other people are annoyed. When was the last time you went to a movie where you could do that?

I saw it opening day with a huge group of friends, we all brought rubber snakes and threw them at the screen and in the audience durring the movie. It was a blast. People were comming up to us after the show and thanking us for being there because we really made the movie experience memorable.

RoboFlonne · Post by **RoboFlonne** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 4:59 pm

Wow! Cool! I want a rubber Snake!!

Not Sir Phobos · Post by **Not Sir Phobos** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:03 am

RoboFlonne wrote:Wow! Cool! I want a rubber Snake!!

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*snicker*